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kowenicki said: @carl no it isnt "technically" true... but its a very valid point of view and I think the majority would agree.... not here if course.....

I think the majority of people who will have played Halo will agree that it beats KZ2 in gameplay... but for some people oddly Killzone > Halo lol.

People seem to be fixated on the duration of the campaign and ignore the (reported) immersiveness and overall quality of the experience.

I'd rather watch (and re-watch) a great movie that clocks in at 75 minutes than sit through a 180 minute director's cut of the steaming pile of "Independence Day".

A long movie (experience) isn't necessarily a great one.

And, sorry, great graphics don't inherently make a game any better. Particularly in light of how many people post about their love of their PSOne and PS2 games...

"...still one of the greatest games ever" statements abound. I don't see anyone seriously suggesting that aging graphics makes those games any less fun and should drop their review score.

If it's a price issue, then just wait until the price cuts come. The game itself isn't any better or worse for being its price - a $49.99 game isn't better than a $59.99 game merely for being $10 cheaper. If price is the reason that a game is ding'd in review score, then the review score would have to be rounded up once the price dropped. I have yet to see that happen...

what do you want me to comment them ?

they were right !

Maybe not less, but if you have a game that has great multiplayer, and mediocre graphics... and another that has great multiplayer and great graphics.. how can you possible give them an equal score? It makes no sense. The reason for this is that Halo fans are in love with the series (which is understandable) but what thy aren't seeing is that the game isn't giving them all it should for their money. I mean seriously, is it too much to ask for an updated graphics engine? Or 720p resolution? Halo's 640 is just... lazy. 

Carl2291 said: kowenicki said: @carl no it isnt "technically" true... but its a very valid point of view and I think the majority would agree.... not here if course..... I think the majority of people who will have played Halo will agree that it beats KZ2 in gameplay... but for some people oddly Killzone > Halo lol.

Halo's gameplay is definitely more polished than Killzone 2's ... it's understandable considering the franchise is much more active. Halo gameplay definitely > Killzone 2 gameplay. But it's not like Killzone 2's gameplay is horrid, I like it a lot. If Halo were a 10, Killzone 2's gameplay would be ike an 8.

DaBuddahN said: Carl2291 said: kowenicki said: @carl no it isnt "technically" true... but its a very valid point of view and I think the majority would agree.... not here if course..... I think the majority of people who will have played Halo will agree that it beats KZ2 in gameplay... but for some people oddly Killzone > Halo lol. Halo's gameplay is definitely more polished than Killzone 2's ... it's understandable considering the franchise is much more active. Halo gameplay definitely > Killzone 2 gameplay. But it's not like Killzone 2's gameplay is horrid, I like it a lot. If Halo were a 10, Killzone 2's gameplay would be ike an 8.

I agree, Killzone 2's gameplay is indeed good. But when compared to Halo 3's gameplay it is very stiff and clunky.

But then again, there are a number of things KZ does better than Halo too.

I agree with Halo being higher, but 9/10... compared to KZ 7.5/10.

well, I see ur point.

if I expect a 7/10 from gamekult.com it is because i expect a 8/10 from others !

while if i expect a 8/10 from gamekult.com then i expect a 9/10 from others !

I'm comparing it to Halo ODST specifically! Halo 3 in itself has a well suited campaign! I have never questioned Halo 3's score, I like the game very much. I just mentioned Halo 3 for a moment, but I'm talking about Halo 3 specifically, just the ODST expansion. Killzone 2 does almost everything well, minus the gameplay, which in Halo I admit, is superior (the response in Killzone is a bit clunky, but nothing that makes me wanna break the disc in half). Call of Duty 4 says "Hi". Gears of War 2 is also present and accounted for. 

Carl2291 said: DaBuddahN said: Carl2291 said: kowenicki said: @carl no it isnt "technically" true... but its a very valid point of view and I think the majority would agree.... not here if course..... I think the majority of people who will have played Halo will agree that it beats KZ2 in gameplay... but for some people oddly Killzone > Halo lol. Halo's gameplay is definitely more polished than Killzone 2's ... it's understandable considering the franchise is much more active. Halo gameplay definitely > Killzone 2 gameplay. But it's not like Killzone 2's gameplay is horrid, I like it a lot. If Halo were a 10, Killzone 2's gameplay would be ike an 8. I agree, Killzone 2's gameplay is indeed good. But when compared to Halo 3's gameplay it is very stiff and clunky. But then again, there are a number of things KZ does better than Halo too. I agree with Halo being higher, but 9/10... compared to KZ 7.5/10.

You mean Halo 3 being a 9/10 and Killzone 2 being a 7.5/10? That's reasonable.