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Avinash_Tyagi on 23 October 2009
txrattlesnake said:
Avinash_Tyagi said:
txrattlesnake said:
Final Fantasy XIII will put the PS3 over 5 million units sold in Japan. Will NSMBWii put the Wii over 10 million units sold in Japan?

FF13 won't push PS3 over 5 million, FF13 liftime sales in Japan are predicted to be 1.5-1.8 million, by Famitsu and Media create

Lets be generous and say 20% of FF13 buyers will purchase a PS3, that means FF13 will drive 300-360K PS3 sales basically FF13 would only put it above 4 million in Japan

 

And yet by the time GT5 comes out in March, the PS3 will have sold over 5 million units there.  There has to be a game that is primarily responsible for that.


Not necessarily, in fact considering PS3 sales are dropping into the mid 20K's a week in Japan, that means after the holidays, it probably will sell less than 300K in the first few weeks of the new year, it could very likely be below 5 million when GT5 launches

 

Predictions:Sales of Wii Fit will surpass the combined sales of the Grand Theft Auto franchiseLifetime sales of Wii will surpass the combined sales of the entire Playstation family of consoles by 12/31/2015 Wii hardware sales will surpass the total hardware sales of the PS2 by 12/31/2010 Wii will have 50% marketshare or more by the end of 2008 (I was wrong!!  It was a little over 48% only)Wii will surpass 45 Million in lifetime sales by the end of 2008 (I was wrong!!  Nintendo Financials showed it fell slightly short of 45 million shipped by end of 2008)Wii will surpass 80 Million in lifetime sales by the end of 2009 (I was wrong!! Wii didn't even get to 70 Million)

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txrattlesnake on 23 October 2009
Avinash_Tyagi said:
txrattlesnake said:
Avinash_Tyagi said:
txrattlesnake said:
Final Fantasy XIII will put the PS3 over 5 million units sold in Japan. Will NSMBWii put the Wii over 10 million units sold in Japan?

FF13 won't push PS3 over 5 million, FF13 liftime sales in Japan are predicted to be 1.5-1.8 million, by Famitsu and Media create

Lets be generous and say 20% of FF13 buyers will purchase a PS3, that means FF13 will drive 300-360K PS3 sales basically FF13 would only put it above 4 million in Japan

 

And yet by the time GT5 comes out in March, the PS3 will have sold over 5 million units there.  There has to be a game that is primarily responsible for that.

Not necessarily, in fact considering PS3 sales are dropping into the mid 20K's a week in Japan, that means after the holidays, it probably will sell less than 300K in the first few weeks of the new year, it could very likely be below 5 million when GT5 launches

 

Actually, it's still in the high 20's, and it has beaten the Wii 2 out of 3 weeks since Wii Fit + came out including the latest one.



Avinash_Tyagi on 23 October 2009
txrattlesnake said:
Avinash_Tyagi said:
txrattlesnake said:
Avinash_Tyagi said:
txrattlesnake said:
Final Fantasy XIII will put the PS3 over 5 million units sold in Japan. Will NSMBWii put the Wii over 10 million units sold in Japan?

FF13 won't push PS3 over 5 million, FF13 liftime sales in Japan are predicted to be 1.5-1.8 million, by Famitsu and Media create

Lets be generous and say 20% of FF13 buyers will purchase a PS3, that means FF13 will drive 300-360K PS3 sales basically FF13 would only put it above 4 million in Japan

 

And yet by the time GT5 comes out in March, the PS3 will have sold over 5 million units there.  There has to be a game that is primarily responsible for that.

Not necessarily, in fact considering PS3 sales are dropping into the mid 20K's a week in Japan, that means after the holidays, it probably will sell less than 300K in the first few weeks of the new year, it could very likely be below 5 million when GT5 launches

 

Actually, it's still in the high 20's, and it has beaten the Wii 2 out of 3 weeks since Wii Fit + came out including the latest one.


Yeah, by like under a thousand, not really all that much, in fact a statistical tie considering the numbers aren't perfect, not to mention its going to fall a bit more before it settles, according to ioi

 

Predictions:Sales of Wii Fit will surpass the combined sales of the Grand Theft Auto franchiseLifetime sales of Wii will surpass the combined sales of the entire Playstation family of consoles by 12/31/2015 Wii hardware sales will surpass the total hardware sales of the PS2 by 12/31/2010 Wii will have 50% marketshare or more by the end of 2008 (I was wrong!!  It was a little over 48% only)Wii will surpass 45 Million in lifetime sales by the end of 2008 (I was wrong!!  Nintendo Financials showed it fell slightly short of 45 million shipped by end of 2008)Wii will surpass 80 Million in lifetime sales by the end of 2009 (I was wrong!! Wii didn't even get to 70 Million)

txrattlesnake on 23 October 2009
Avinash_Tyagi said:
txrattlesnake said:
Avinash_Tyagi said:
txrattlesnake said:
Avinash_Tyagi said:
txrattlesnake said:
Final Fantasy XIII will put the PS3 over 5 million units sold in Japan. Will NSMBWii put the Wii over 10 million units sold in Japan?

FF13 won't push PS3 over 5 million, FF13 liftime sales in Japan are predicted to be 1.5-1.8 million, by Famitsu and Media create

Lets be generous and say 20% of FF13 buyers will purchase a PS3, that means FF13 will drive 300-360K PS3 sales basically FF13 would only put it above 4 million in Japan

 

And yet by the time GT5 comes out in March, the PS3 will have sold over 5 million units there.  There has to be a game that is primarily responsible for that.

Not necessarily, in fact considering PS3 sales are dropping into the mid 20K's a week in Japan, that means after the holidays, it probably will sell less than 300K in the first few weeks of the new year, it could very likely be below 5 million when GT5 launches

 

Actually, it's still in the high 20's, and it has beaten the Wii 2 out of 3 weeks since Wii Fit + came out including the latest one.

Yeah, by like under a thousand, not really all that much, in fact a statistical tie considering the numbers aren't perfect, not to mention its going to fall a bit more before it settles, according to ioi

 

Yeah, well Wii will fall a bit before Mario Wii comes out.  And maybe hardware sales won't be pushed that much by Mario Wii because the Japanese have already bought Wiis for Mario games like Galaxy and Kart.

There hasn't been a new FF released in Japan in 4 years.



Avinash_Tyagi on 23 October 2009
txrattlesnake said:
Avinash_Tyagi said:
txrattlesnake said:
Avinash_Tyagi said:
txrattlesnake said:
Avinash_Tyagi said:
txrattlesnake said:
Final Fantasy XIII will put the PS3 over 5 million units sold in Japan. Will NSMBWii put the Wii over 10 million units sold in Japan?

FF13 won't push PS3 over 5 million, FF13 liftime sales in Japan are predicted to be 1.5-1.8 million, by Famitsu and Media create

Lets be generous and say 20% of FF13 buyers will purchase a PS3, that means FF13 will drive 300-360K PS3 sales basically FF13 would only put it above 4 million in Japan

 

And yet by the time GT5 comes out in March, the PS3 will have sold over 5 million units there.  There has to be a game that is primarily responsible for that.

Not necessarily, in fact considering PS3 sales are dropping into the mid 20K's a week in Japan, that means after the holidays, it probably will sell less than 300K in the first few weeks of the new year, it could very likely be below 5 million when GT5 launches

 

Actually, it's still in the high 20's, and it has beaten the Wii 2 out of 3 weeks since Wii Fit + came out including the latest one.

Yeah, by like under a thousand, not really all that much, in fact a statistical tie considering the numbers aren't perfect, not to mention its going to fall a bit more before it settles, according to ioi

 

Yeah, well Wii will fall a bit before Mario Wii comes out.  And maybe hardware sales won't be pushed that much by Mario Wii because the Japanese have already bought Wiis for Mario games like Galaxy and Kart.

There hasn't been a new FF released in Japan in 4 years.


ROFL, every FF fan knows that PS3 is getting FF13 in Japan, so they probably already own it in anticipation, not to mention to get the other JRPG's On the other hand, there hasn't been a 2D mario in over a decade on a console, and the 3D and 2D Mario fanbases aren't the same, compare NSMB DS to Galaxy, and see the huge difference, and Mario Kart isn't a platformer, so no, NSMB has much more hardware pushing potential than FF13, which is being predicted to sell quite poorly for an FF game according to Famitsu and MC

 

Predictions:Sales of Wii Fit will surpass the combined sales of the Grand Theft Auto franchiseLifetime sales of Wii will surpass the combined sales of the entire Playstation family of consoles by 12/31/2015 Wii hardware sales will surpass the total hardware sales of the PS2 by 12/31/2010 Wii will have 50% marketshare or more by the end of 2008 (I was wrong!!  It was a little over 48% only)Wii will surpass 45 Million in lifetime sales by the end of 2008 (I was wrong!!  Nintendo Financials showed it fell slightly short of 45 million shipped by end of 2008)Wii will surpass 80 Million in lifetime sales by the end of 2009 (I was wrong!! Wii didn't even get to 70 Million)

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txrattlesnake on 23 October 2009
Avinash_Tyagi said:
txrattlesnake said:
Avinash_Tyagi said:
txrattlesnake said:
Avinash_Tyagi said:
txrattlesnake said:
Avinash_Tyagi said:
txrattlesnake said:
Final Fantasy XIII will put the PS3 over 5 million units sold in Japan. Will NSMBWii put the Wii over 10 million units sold in Japan?

FF13 won't push PS3 over 5 million, FF13 liftime sales in Japan are predicted to be 1.5-1.8 million, by Famitsu and Media create

Lets be generous and say 20% of FF13 buyers will purchase a PS3, that means FF13 will drive 300-360K PS3 sales basically FF13 would only put it above 4 million in Japan

 

And yet by the time GT5 comes out in March, the PS3 will have sold over 5 million units there.  There has to be a game that is primarily responsible for that.

Not necessarily, in fact considering PS3 sales are dropping into the mid 20K's a week in Japan, that means after the holidays, it probably will sell less than 300K in the first few weeks of the new year, it could very likely be below 5 million when GT5 launches

 

Actually, it's still in the high 20's, and it has beaten the Wii 2 out of 3 weeks since Wii Fit + came out including the latest one.

Yeah, by like under a thousand, not really all that much, in fact a statistical tie considering the numbers aren't perfect, not to mention its going to fall a bit more before it settles, according to ioi

 

Yeah, well Wii will fall a bit before Mario Wii comes out.  And maybe hardware sales won't be pushed that much by Mario Wii because the Japanese have already bought Wiis for Mario games like Galaxy and Kart.

There hasn't been a new FF released in Japan in 4 years.

ROFL, every FF fan knows that PS3 is getting FF13 in Japan, so they probably already own it in anticipation, not to mention to get the other JRPG's On the other hand, there hasn't been a 2D mario in over a decade on a console, and the 3D and 2D Mario fanbases aren't the same, compare NSMB DS to Galaxy, and see the huge difference, and Mario Kart isn't a platformer, so no, NSMB has much more hardware pushing potential than FF13, which is being predicted to sell quite poorly for an FF game according to Famitsu and MC

 

Yeah, they knew FF was on the way, but they also knew PS3 would get some price cuts eventually, so why not buy it closer to the release of the game?  Also, there haven't been that many jrpgs on PS3 to cause the FF fans to have to buy one because Infinite Undiscovery and Last Remnant were only on 360.  And if they are basing those projections in part on how jrpgs have done on 360 that's a totally erroneus projection.



julien133 on 23 October 2009

Difficult to predict...Think it will be a beautiful fight, perhaps 50/50 ?

FF on PS3 will be enormous, of course...Just wait to see how many "tales of graces" pack will be sell



 

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saicho on 23 October 2009
txrattlesnake said:
Avinash_Tyagi said:
txrattlesnake said:
Final Fantasy XIII will put the PS3 over 5 million units sold in Japan. Will NSMBWii put the Wii over 10 million units sold in Japan?

FF13 won't push PS3 over 5 million, FF13 liftime sales in Japan are predicted to be 1.5-1.8 million, by Famitsu and Media create

Lets be generous and say 20% of FF13 buyers will purchase a PS3, that means FF13 will drive 300-360K PS3 sales basically FF13 would only put it above 4 million in Japan

 

And yet by the time GT5 comes out in March, the PS3 will have sold over 5 million units there.  There has to be a game that is primarily responsible for that.

so every PS3 games released between FFXIII and GT5 don't count?

With your logic, I don't see how NSMBWii wouldn't put Wii over 10 million units in Japan.



MikeB predicts that the PS3 will sell about 140 million units by the end of 2016 and triple the amount of 360s in the long run.

Avinash_Tyagi on 23 October 2009

Not all of them, some got it earlier, and some got it when the slim launched, truthfully not a lot of people left, also tales and other JRPGs have come out for PS3, who knows how many FF fans were among those games buyers



 

Predictions:Sales of Wii Fit will surpass the combined sales of the Grand Theft Auto franchiseLifetime sales of Wii will surpass the combined sales of the entire Playstation family of consoles by 12/31/2015 Wii hardware sales will surpass the total hardware sales of the PS2 by 12/31/2010 Wii will have 50% marketshare or more by the end of 2008 (I was wrong!!  It was a little over 48% only)Wii will surpass 45 Million in lifetime sales by the end of 2008 (I was wrong!!  Nintendo Financials showed it fell slightly short of 45 million shipped by end of 2008)Wii will surpass 80 Million in lifetime sales by the end of 2009 (I was wrong!! Wii didn't even get to 70 Million)

trestres on 27 October 2009

Oh no, the thread has been broken..........

LOL Mod edit please?



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