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The DS would have seen its sales drop this year too if it were not for the DSi, which now is bringing old DS Phat and DS Lite owners to also buy the DS again in addition to new DS 'virgins'.

Last year the DS in Japan went through a period where its sales were down big down for months and months until Nintendo released the DSi.

The PS3 is also down YoY until the Slim + Price Cut. The PSP is also down YoY. The 360 is about even from a year ago, but that really could because it was the only system that had a recent price reduction last fall helping it weather the storm.

Maybe its time to acknowledge the recession is hurting game sales. Every news broadcast, every Dr. Phil, Oprah, etc. is telling consumers to curb their spending and only spend on bargains. People are afraid of losing their job or have lost their job.

You need to give consumers more incentive to pull out that credit card these days ... I think that's just the reality. Blue Ocean and all those buzz words don't mean as much in this recession.

Its also easy to say "make more games" ... you can't just make a game in 3 months, even something like Wii Sports Resort probably takes a minimum 18 months to get out. Nintendo is investing in a huge new R&D facility next to their Kyoto HQ, but the benefits from not will not be felt until probably the next wave of Nintendo game machines (Wii 2/DS 2) as I don't even know if they've broken ground on construction for the new building. That's probably 2 years out at least. 



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Nick said:
BMaker11 said:
I don't care about the "Blue Ocean Strategy" or "expanding the audience". If Sony or Microsoft go the Nintendo route, and have games like Wii Fit and Wii Sports be what they focus on...I quit games

and one of your favorite games is guitar hero....  lol I guess that's ok since it's not a Wii exclusive.  Oh well, you'll be missed.

And one of my favorite games is Halo too. So what, what're you getting at? If you're saying those games are comparable to Wii Fit, you're wrong. You don't see organizations having Wii Fit tournaments with $1,000s of dollars in prizes if you..get this: WIN



The Blue Ocean Strategy has nothing to do with demographics or expanding the audience.



ph4nt said:
BMaker11 said:
Soriku said:
BMaker11 said:
I don't care about the "Blue Ocean Strategy" or "expanding the audience". If Sony or Microsoft go the Nintendo route, and have games like Wii Fit and Wii Sports be what they focus on...I quit games


I'm loving the ignorance in that those type of games aren't the only ones that appear on the Wii.

What ignorance? The Nintendo dude said it himself: "maybe they should make more nongamer influenced games like Wii Fit and Wii Sports".

I know those aren't the only games that are on the Wii, but those kinds of games are definitely what Nintendo has been focusing on this gen aka the Blue Ocean Strategy. If Sony or Microsoft did the same thing, I'd just quit.

If the biggest E3 announcement one year from Microsoft is....XboxMusic, that'll be the end

I'd understand your complaint about Nintendo focussing on casual gamers and not hardcore gamers if it was indeed true, but Nintendo has produced more "core" games for Wii than they have any other system in the past.

Not true.



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trestres said:
ph4nt said:
BMaker11 said:
Soriku said:
BMaker11 said:
I don't care about the "Blue Ocean Strategy" or "expanding the audience". If Sony or Microsoft go the Nintendo route, and have games like Wii Fit and Wii Sports be what they focus on...I quit games


I'm loving the ignorance in that those type of games aren't the only ones that appear on the Wii.

What ignorance? The Nintendo dude said it himself: "maybe they should make more nongamer influenced games like Wii Fit and Wii Sports".

I know those aren't the only games that are on the Wii, but those kinds of games are definitely what Nintendo has been focusing on this gen aka the Blue Ocean Strategy. If Sony or Microsoft did the same thing, I'd just quit.

If the biggest E3 announcement one year from Microsoft is....XboxMusic, that'll be the end

I'd understand your complaint about Nintendo focussing on casual gamers and not hardcore gamers if it was indeed true, but Nintendo has produced more "core" games for Wii than they have any other system in the past.

Not true.

Prove me wrong, I'm interested to see your list.



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Can you prove what you said?



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Bets with Conegamer:

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Pandora's Tower will sell less than 100k lifetime in Japan.
Stakes: 1 week of avatar control for each one.

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ph4nt said:
trestres said:
ph4nt said:

I'd understand your complaint about Nintendo focussing on casual gamers and not hardcore gamers if it was indeed true, but Nintendo has produced more "core" games for Wii than they have any other system in the past.

Not true.

Prove me wrong, I'm interested to see your list.

There's no such thing as negative proof. The onus is on you to prove your statement. So go ahead.



trestres said:
Can you prove what you said?

You are the one attacking my opinion, present me with your evidence.

edit: i'll even tell you what to do, show me a list of what you think to be Nintendo's most impressive first party oferrings for any console or handheld.



@Ph4nt: If you can't back up your claims then why even bother posting them?



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tag - "I wouldn't trust gamespot, even if it was a live comparison."

Bets with Conegamer:

Pandora's Tower will have an opening week of less than 37k in Japan. (Won!)
Pandora's Tower will sell less than 100k lifetime in Japan.
Stakes: 1 week of avatar control for each one.

Fullfilled Prophecies

trestres said:
@Ph4nt: If you can't back up your claims then why even bother posting them?

I don't need to back up my claims,  ialready know it's true, show me a list.