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My whole thing is that it's not something you really have to worry about with PC either. I don't see gaming keyboards as something you'd be like "*gasp* You have a gaming keyboard!!? We're all boned! *disconnect*". Yes, I know you said your point isn't trying to be that extreme, but I still think it's making a bit of a stink out of something that's not that serious to begin with. Again, I'm not saying something misinformed like they don't offer any kind of improvement over the basic keyboard or mouse.

Though I hope that you can understand why I would disagree after reading,

"Console controls are more user friendly, less buttons to keep track of, no getting destroyed by the guy with the $300.00 lazer precision, fully customizeable, extra precise, wireless mouse and keyboard set."

and

"Dude, A really good mouse and a fully customizeable keyboard gives a person a pretty significant advantage."

Still, since you'd use a keyboard and mouse all the time and not just for games, I don't really see what would be so bad about getting something higher quality than the $15-20 basic set. At the very least, I'd probably recommend a good mouse. Especially in my case where a good gaming mouse, the Logitech G5, is the only mouse I use anymore and that includes games as well as software like Adobe products and Final Cut Pro where the only mice I'd otherwise have to use are the stupid one button mice or the slightly less stupid (and usually broken) mighty mice.

But alas, this is getting repetitive and stupid now. In the end, it's the cheaters that will have the clear and significant advantage :p



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ssj12 said:

Why are ALL you guys forgetting the ultimate PC gaming accessory? This single handedly destroys motion control and even gaming mice.

lol, no, the best PC gaming accessory is the fleshlight.

Also, can you believe all these people suddenly defending piracy after my posts?

I know that's not indicative of the common PC gamers intelligence, but might piracy be indicative of the common PC gamers morals?

We seem to have a hell of a lot of them on here, with the balls to stand up to my arguments, with the reasoning of "PC gaming is better because there is piracy, and used games is the same thing so it's not wrong."

What an argument, I tell ya.

Those people exist, and that's why PC gaming is inferior in my eyes. It allows creatures like that to get away with shit that would probably get them arrested if they weren't anon.

There needs to be some regulation on any platform, and without it, you get bullshite like those guys. If PC gaming DID die, it would be a huge negative to me, but I would take solice in the fact that they would now have to actually pay for gaming. Excuse my language, but I wish their sorry asses would get thrown in federal rape prison, 10 years a dollar.



I don't need your console war.
It feeds the rich while it buries the poor.
You're power hungry, spinnin' stories, and bein' graphics whores.
I don't need your console war.

NO NO, NO NO NO.

ZenfoldorVGI said:

There needs to be some regulation on any platform, and without it, you get bullshite like those guys. If PC gaming DID die, it would be a huge negative to me, but I would take solice in the fact that they would now have to actually pay for gaming. Excust my language, but I wish their sorry asses would get thrown in federal rape prison, 10 years a dollar.

That is unholy bugshit insane, every word of it. You cannot mean what you just typed. Do you not believe in the principle of a punishment fitting a crime?



Khuutra said:
ZenfoldorVGI said:

There needs to be some regulation on any platform, and without it, you get bullshite like those guys. If PC gaming DID die, it would be a huge negative to me, but I would take solice in the fact that they would now have to actually pay for gaming. Excust my language, but I wish their sorry asses would get thrown in federal rape prison, 10 years a dollar.

That is unholy bugshit insane, every word of it. You cannot mean what you just typed. Do you not believe in the principle of a punishment fitting a crime?

I've got to go to bed, work early. More on this tomorrow, but I just want to say this, the things I wish I could do to the pirating community is far worse than federal prison could dish out.

That said, no system of justice can work without being just.

What I WISH would happen to them, is not what SHOULD happen to them, so to answer your question, yes, the punishment should fit the crime. I say make them pay double, for pain and suffering, and then ban them from the internet, for taking advantage of it.



I don't need your console war.
It feeds the rich while it buries the poor.
You're power hungry, spinnin' stories, and bein' graphics whores.
I don't need your console war.

NO NO, NO NO NO.

ZenfoldorVGI said:
Khuutra said:
ZenfoldorVGI said:

There needs to be some regulation on any platform, and without it, you get bullshite like those guys. If PC gaming DID die, it would be a huge negative to me, but I would take solice in the fact that they would now have to actually pay for gaming. Excust my language, but I wish their sorry asses would get thrown in federal rape prison, 10 years a dollar.

That is unholy bugshit insane, every word of it. You cannot mean what you just typed. Do you not believe in the principle of a punishment fitting a crime?

I've got to go to bed, work early. More on this tomorrow, but I just want to say this, the things I wish I could do to the pirating community is far worse than federal prison could dish out.

That said, no system of justice can work without being just.

What I WISH would happen to them, is not what SHOULD happen to them, so to answer your question, yes, the punishment should fit the crime. I say make them pay double, for pain and suffering, and then ban them from the internet, for taking advantage of it.

This is not in any way making the punishment fit the crime.



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Khuutra said:
ZenfoldorVGI said:
Khuutra said:
ZenfoldorVGI said:

There needs to be some regulation on any platform, and without it, you get bullshite like those guys. If PC gaming DID die, it would be a huge negative to me, but I would take solice in the fact that they would now have to actually pay for gaming. Excust my language, but I wish their sorry asses would get thrown in federal rape prison, 10 years a dollar.

That is unholy bugshit insane, every word of it. You cannot mean what you just typed. Do you not believe in the principle of a punishment fitting a crime?

I've got to go to bed, work early. More on this tomorrow, but I just want to say this, the things I wish I could do to the pirating community is far worse than federal prison could dish out.

That said, no system of justice can work without being just.

What I WISH would happen to them, is not what SHOULD happen to them, so to answer your question, yes, the punishment should fit the crime. I say make them pay double, for pain and suffering, and then ban them from the internet, for taking advantage of it.

This is not in any way making the punishment fit the crime.

...well how bout this.

When you get caught for piracy exceeding a certain relatively small amount...

YOU DO GET TO GO TO FEDERAL PRISON

Yet, I'm batshit crazy. Except that the legal system agrees with my worst, most hostile wishes.

You have a problem with the US legal system, if you have a problem with the punishment not fitting the crime.

It's actually a stiffer penalty than child molestation in some states.

And yes, it should carry a stiff penalty. Punishment is sometimes used as an example, and doesn't always fit the crime. Especially in real like, not some hypothetical question that we debate on these forums.

Pirating IS illegal, arbitrary or not, and doing it makes you a criminal, and in the eyes of the law, you're a much worse criminal than one would assume, for doing so, and might, just might, end up in that federal pen, where what happens?

You know what happens.

20 year old skinny dork pirates are like PS3 exclusives in there. They get everybody talking, and then you really learn the meaning of a used game.



I don't need your console war.
It feeds the rich while it buries the poor.
You're power hungry, spinnin' stories, and bein' graphics whores.
I don't need your console war.

NO NO, NO NO NO.

ZenfoldorVGI said:

...well how bout this.

When you get caught for piracy exceeding a certain relatively small amount...

YOU DO GET TO GO TO FEDERAL PRISON

Yet, I'm batshit crazy. Except that the legal system agrees with my worst, most hostile wishes.

You have a problem with the US legal system, if you have a problem with the punishment not fitting the crime.

It's actually a stiffer penalty than child molestation in some states.

And yes, it should carry a stiff penalty. Punishment is sometimes used as an example, and doesn't always fit the crime. Especially in real like, not some hypothetical question that we debate on these forums.

Pirating IS illegal, arbitrary or not, and doing it makes you a criminal, and in the eyes of the law, you're a much worse criminal than one would assume, for doing so, and might, just might, end up in that federal pen, where what happens?

You know what happens.

20 year old skinny dork pirates are like PS3 exclusives in there. They get everybody talking, and then you really learn the meaning of a used game.

I'm sorry, what? To the best of my knowledge, pirating content for yourself is copyright infringement. That's a civil matter, not a federal crime. Selling might be something else altogether, I don't know the specific, but you name me one person who's ever gone to jail for downloading video games off of the internet.



By "wish", do you mean you would sincerely like to see that happen, or do you mean you just like to fantasize about the idea? 'Cause the second option is a lot less crazy.



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ironman said:

Oooh, how long did you google to find that bad boy? I did a quick 30 second google for each keyboard I posted just to give ytou an IDEA of what was out there. Two of the keyboards I showed you are "quet" to reduce fatigue, and have rubberized keys to give the player more control. So I'm sorry, but the other keyboards do give an edge to PC players, be it in key placement, Key feel, or programming. So it is quite clear you know very little about keyboards. Now, as far as the mice go, once again, a mouse that "sees" in a higher DPI will be more ACCURATE than one that "sees" in a lower DPI. that is a very important word. it means that the mice are more controlled and will "move" smoother across your screen. The fact that you don't know this, proves to me that you really don't have a clue what you are saying. 

I brought up the graphics to make a point, nobody can fiddle with the graphics on a console, therefore everybody gets the same experiance. And nobody has a larger advantage.

 

Torillian, Even though the issue was reported, the reported user was not banned, I have been banned for much less...several times...infact one ban was completely reversed. So basically, I have reason to be a little put off by the mojority of the modding community around here. Now, Any further rebuttle should be taken to my wall where it belongs, not clogging up a thread.

Honestly? It took me 2 secondsto type out "Fatal1ty keyboard" in the google bar, then 1 more to click on images to find you what the top player in shooters uses. But never mind him. He obviously doesn't know crap about this and the leet hax advantages the specialized keyboards can give a player......

I'm sure even you can follow the logic here. Undispuedly best fps player uses a standard (albeit backlit) QWERTY keyboard. Yet you still throw bullshit specialized keyboards in the fray. Dont you think he would be using the speial KBDs if they really gave such advantages? Your hole argument is flawed beyond belief.

Last time my mouse didn't move noticable smooth across my screen was wseveral years ago when I was using a wirelessand the batteries died. Other than that there has been no difference between using a ball, optical, or laser mice outside of weight (which really anoys me when it changes).

Yeah, and everyone acn lower their graphics on their PC game and get as much advantage as the next. The point is that if you want the game to just look good without giving a damn about miniscule advantages, you can do that too.



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vlad321 said:
ironman said:

Oooh, how long did you google to find that bad boy? I did a quick 30 second google for each keyboard I posted just to give ytou an IDEA of what was out there. Two of the keyboards I showed you are "quet" to reduce fatigue, and have rubberized keys to give the player more control. So I'm sorry, but the other keyboards do give an edge to PC players, be it in key placement, Key feel, or programming. So it is quite clear you know very little about keyboards. Now, as far as the mice go, once again, a mouse that "sees" in a higher DPI will be more ACCURATE than one that "sees" in a lower DPI. that is a very important word. it means that the mice are more controlled and will "move" smoother across your screen. The fact that you don't know this, proves to me that you really don't have a clue what you are saying. 

I brought up the graphics to make a point, nobody can fiddle with the graphics on a console, therefore everybody gets the same experiance. And nobody has a larger advantage.

 

Torillian, Even though the issue was reported, the reported user was not banned, I have been banned for much less...several times...infact one ban was completely reversed. So basically, I have reason to be a little put off by the mojority of the modding community around here. Now, Any further rebuttle should be taken to my wall where it belongs, not clogging up a thread.

Honestly? It took me 2 secondsto type out "Fatal1ty keyboard" in the google bar, then 1 more to click on images to find you what the top player in shooters uses. But never mind him. He obviously doesn't know crap about this and the leet hax advantages the specialized keyboards can give a player......

I'm sure even you can follow the logic here. Undispuedly best fps player uses a standard (albeit backlit) QWERTY keyboard. Yet you still throw bullshit specialized keyboards in the fray. Dont you think he would be using the speial KBDs if they really gave such advantages? Your hole argument is flawed beyond belief.

Last time my mouse didn't move noticable smooth across my screen was wseveral years ago when I was using a wirelessand the batteries died. Other than that there has been no difference between using a ball, optical, or laser mice outside of weight (which really anoys me when it changes).

Yeah, and everyone acn lower their graphics on their PC game and get as much advantage as the next. The point is that if you want the game to just look good without giving a damn about miniscule advantages, you can do that too.

You again? I thought you had been embarrased enough for one day.

You asked me to show you keyboards that did the things I was implying, which, obviously means you had no idea they existed since you had to ask for links. Now, What you, and Fatality use, are irrelevant to the overall point I am making. The keyboards, like it or not, are designed to give a player an advantage. Appearently you cannot seem to wrap your head around that fact. Same with the mice, what you use is irrelevant, because there exists, mice that track better than anything you have every used. Mice that DO give a player an unfair advantage.

lastly, many people actually play better with better graphics. I mean, why would graphics card companies even bother selling tricked out graphics cards specifically for gaming if it didn't give people an edge. You are really grasping for straws here, too bad you keep coming up empty.



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