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I think it needs to be on a console, and considering that all the suikodens have been on playstation consoles (excluding tiekries), it would be best served by being on the ps3.

Although, I think it would do even better by being multiplat and going 360/ps3. that way they can leverage more sales to make another one.

On a side note, anybody know why the majority of JRPG's are exclusives to one console? Perhaps this is why their sales are dwindling?



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yeah a new Suikoden would be sooooo great...but what about a new Wild Arms?Wild Arms VI for PS3?sounds also great for me!



Carl2291 said:
Kenryoku_Maxis said:
Carl2291 said:
ClaudeLv250 said:
Suikoden VI.

Wii.

No just no.

PSP or PS3 is where it should be at.

When will people learn that Graphics don't make an RPG good?  And what Suikoden needs badly is more fans, since the series has never been that popular (and both Suikoden IV and V sold less than 300,000 copies each).  Putting it on the least popular console, even if it has great graphics and top quality gameplay, will not enhance the series, only keep it stagnant or on the path to obscurity (not that it isn't already going that way).  And putting it on the 360 is a death sentence, as the plethora of mediocre JRPGs this gen can show.  And because this game is HEAVILY Japanese focused.

The Wii or DS is the only place that will make the series gain fans.

See my other post.

The DS didnt exactly move Suiko forward any. The only place it will have a chance is PSP.
PS3 would be my personal fave, with a kind of Blue Dragon game engine.

The DS didn't move Suikoden forward any because Suikoden on the DS was a side game.  Created by a side group in Konami who were effectively making a game that played more like a Final Fantasy game with 108 characters.  And to say it bombed because it was on DS is like saying Final Fantasy Crystal Cronicles DS was a bomb because it didn't sell as well as Final Fantasy XII on the Playstation.

But the point is, there's a reason many major RPG series are going to DS and Wii now.  And that's because Japans fanbase has overwhelmingly focused on those two systems.  And the major thing Suikoden needs is to capture new fans, not appease 'Sony' fans or those who like better graphics in RPGs.

Save state transfering has been killed off by Suikoden IV and V.  As well as the consecutive storyline.  If the new game is in fact a Suikoden game and the creator wants to put it on the Wii or DS, he can.  And it will be a wise financial decision.  The PSP, while also RPG heavy, might be a tough sell for Suikoden.  Because it will put the game in the same niche category as it was before.  While many 'RPG' fans own PSPs, not all of them are 'Suikoden' fans.  While if you put the game on the DS, you already have a much larger userbase.  And all you need to do is market it.  It will be like Konami is already doing with Castlevania.  A revival of the series.  And a much needed one at that.



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i'd like to point out in this thread a couple of things.

the sales of Suikoden 1-5 on this site are limited to only the Japanese release.

despite the DS Suikoden having US sales added, they pale in comparison to the PS Suikodens.

Suikoden 5 sold 125,000, Suikoden 4 sold 179,000, Suikoden 3 sold 191,000, and Suikoden 2
sold 152,000 units on first week in Japan.

DS Suikoden sold only 61,000 units on first week in Japan.

Obviously, console versions of the game VASTLY outperform the lone portable version. But, as said before, the most logical choice is PSP.. because of how J-core-games seem to sell like hotcakes on the platform. Think Monster Hunter Portable 2G vs. Monster Hunter 3. Third party games just don't sell as well on Nintendo platforms.

But of course, if they were to make a console version, which would be best, it should be PS3/360. I'm thinking they might make it PS3 exclusive because there are so few 360s in Japan.



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Good for us, bad for them.

ps3 or Psp are the systems I can see Suikoden VI going on.



I was just saying Wii because it was the most financially sound decision. Suikoden is first and foremost a console franchise with a strict budget. So PS360 seems ridiculous, DS is a possibility and so is PSP, though PSP software sales outside of Japan are still horrendous.



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ClaudeLv250 said:
I was just saying Wii because it was the most financially sound decision. Suikoden is first and foremost a console franchise with a strict budget. So PS360 seems ridiculous, DS is a possibility and so is PSP, though PSP software sales outside of Japan are still horrendous.

Any past Suikoden titles on the Wii that indicated good/bad sales?



Kenryoku_Maxis said:
Carl2291 said:
Kenryoku_Maxis said:
Carl2291 said:
ClaudeLv250 said:
Suikoden VI.

Wii.

No just no.

PSP or PS3 is where it should be at.

When will people learn that Graphics don't make an RPG good?  And what Suikoden needs badly is more fans, since the series has never been that popular (and both Suikoden IV and V sold less than 300,000 copies each).  Putting it on the least popular console, even if it has great graphics and top quality gameplay, will not enhance the series, only keep it stagnant or on the path to obscurity (not that it isn't already going that way).  And putting it on the 360 is a death sentence, as the plethora of mediocre JRPGs this gen can show.  And because this game is HEAVILY Japanese focused.

The Wii or DS is the only place that will make the series gain fans.

See my other post.

The DS didnt exactly move Suiko forward any. The only place it will have a chance is PSP.
PS3 would be my personal fave, with a kind of Blue Dragon game engine.

The DS didn't move Suikoden forward any because Suikoden on the DS was a side game.  Created by a side group in Konami who were effectively making a game that played more like a Final Fantasy game with 108 characters.  And to say it bombed because it was on DS is like saying Final Fantasy Crystal Cronicles DS was a bomb because it didn't sell as well as Final Fantasy XII on the Playstation.

But the point is, there's a reason many major RPG series are going to DS and Wii now.  And that's because Japans fanbase has overwhelmingly focused on those two systems.  And the major thing Suikoden needs is to capture new fans, not appease 'Sony' fans or those who like better graphics in RPGs.

Save state transfering has been killed off by Suikoden IV and V.  As well as the consecutive storyline.  If the new game is in fact a Suikoden game and the creator wants to put it on the Wii or DS, he can.  And it will be a wise financial decision.  The PSP, while also RPG heavy, might be a tough sell for Suikoden.  Because it will put the game in the same niche category as it was before.  While many 'RPG' fans own PSPs, not all of them are 'Suikoden' fans.  While if you put the game on the DS, you already have a much larger userbase.  And all you need to do is market it.  It will be like Konami is already doing with Castlevania.  A revival of the series.  And a much needed one at that.

But that's for PS3 and 360..... Not sure where you're going with this one.



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ClaudeLv250 said:
I was just saying Wii because it was the most financially sound decision. Suikoden is first and foremost a console franchise with a strict budget. So PS360 seems ridiculous, DS is a possibility and so is PSP, though PSP software sales outside of Japan are still horrendous.

So are Suikoden sales, so I think it's a non-factor