i am. lets talk about this wonderful fighting game franchise.

i have battle arena toshinden 1-4

battle arena toshinden on gameboy and tiger handheld

i have battle arena nitoshinden, puzzle arena toshinde,and toshinden card quest.

the only toshinden games i do not have are the pc version of 2 and the sega console versions.

my favorite character is vermilion though chaos and duke are tied for second.

i am waiting patiently for the new toshinden to be released for wii this december.

http://www.takaratomy.co.jp/products/gamesoft/catalog/toshinden/index2.html

so, people, lets discuss toshinden.

I hated Toshinden. I actually bit the disc in half, back in 1996. Those were great times!

Toshinden was great back then, until Soul Blade came out. I threw out Toshinden as quick as a hiccup. Soul Blade, Samurai Showdown and Bushido Blade were the top sword fighting games at that time.

I remember seeing the wii shots a while back.. not a very good looking remake.. I remember playing the early versions on the PC.. it wasnt too bad.... thought tekken n VF and soul edge were waaay superior

i had 1,2,3 loved them alot, they're pretty unique.

Not me! Never got to play them and everyone I know tells me to avoid the series.

Toshinden 5 isn't looking too great either.

i love them for the fact that they are 3d fighters that dont use preset combos. preset combos slowly started to get bad. tekken 1-4 were alright havent played 5.soul series was good until soul cal 2 after that it went down hill.virtua fighter was the first 3d fighter and was good back then. never paid much attention to it after that.

what toshinden lacks in graphics it makes up for in unique gameplay.

the original shots shown last year are far outdated. if you want to see what it looks like now check the link i put up or i can post them here.

edit: for such a bad series it definately had plenty of games. XP

The only thing that was unique about the games was the front and back rolling.

with the exception of 3 they are also the only 3d fighters ive ever experienced that used combo systems instead of preset combos.

with preset combos creative play was removed from fighting games and it led to people just trying to "master" the longest and/or cheapest combos to spam again and again. now all fighting games are prone to spamming. but preset combos feel like they encourage it. look at soul cal 4 as a prime example.

I liked it a lot better than Tekken on PS but I haven't played a Toshinden game since.