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justinian said:
Sardauk said:
Oh but I don't lower the quality of KZ2's graphics.

I just say that, while weather and lightning effects are the best ever done on a console, the background graphics (3D modeling and texturing...etc) is very standard.

Just look closely at a sentry turret on any of the multiplayer map and you see what I'm talking about.

Even if it it very good, it still feels a bit like a make-up (some power stripped from one side to another).

So I don't believe it is such a technological showcase to prove the so-called superiority (...) of the PS3... far from it...


"Just look closely at a ....OF THE MULTIPLAYER MAP...."

That quote says it all.

 

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Did I wrote something the wrong way ?



 

Evan Wells (Uncharted 2): I think the differences that you see between any two games has much more to do with the developer than whether it’s on the Xbox or PS3.

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Sardauk said:
justinian said:
Sardauk said:
Oh but I don't lower the quality of KZ2's graphics.

I just say that, while weather and lightning effects are the best ever done on a console, the background graphics (3D modeling and texturing...etc) is very standard.

Just look closely at a sentry turret on any of the multiplayer map and you see what I'm talking about.

Even if it it very good, it still feels a bit like a make-up (some power stripped from one side to another).

So I don't believe it is such a technological showcase to prove the so-called superiority (...) of the PS3... far from it...


"Just look closely at a ....OF THE MULTIPLAYER MAP...."

That quote says it all.

 

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Did I wrote something the wrong way ?

I'm guessing he means the fact that it's a multi-player map is a factor... but I'm puzzled as well.



Showing graphics the X360 can do does not actually disprove the statment X360 can't do graphics the PS3 can.



its called photomode



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I've received this information (by a fanboy obviously):

"u dont not understand graphics my friend. Forza 3 is all just bump mapping, textures and high poly models.

gt is bump mapping textures and insanely high poly models.

the 360 cannot process that many polygons.

if u were to take a car from forza and a care from gt and put them into an edit mode where u can freely edit the look of the cars you will understand why the 360 cannot do it. if all the vertices went orange then forza would have spots of grey but gt would be a massive orange glow that would probably lag your computer.

gt4 - 4000 polygons a car

forza - about 20 000

gt5 - 200 000!"


The answer is:

Yes, the Xbox 360 can process that many polygons!!

This is true for Forza 2! Forza 2 has around it, 20,000 polygons per car. Forza 3 can reach 1,000,000 polygons per car! Of course, not all cars need so many polygons and therefore are not always used these many. On average, cars have around 600,000 / 700,000!

EDIT: Oh, and bump mapping such that there speak, is used on the road and the scenery, not in cars!

The credits go to my friend RacerX RL, an expert in racing games.




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Anybody have articles from (free) developers (not enslaved to Sony) saying that you can achieve significant better lookig graphics on the PS3 ? (compared to 360 ?)

Aside from the PR-Bot statement : "only on PS3", I haven't read anything credible

(Don't come on me with journalists stuffs...).



 

Evan Wells (Uncharted 2): I think the differences that you see between any two games has much more to do with the developer than whether it’s on the Xbox or PS3.

^ Yes Forza 3 is confirmed as 10 times the polygons a Forza 2.
According to MGS Forza 2 has around 100,000 polys per car. PGR3 a console release game had 80,000. So this would put Forza 3 in the 1 million mark. Remeber the underneath of the car is fully modeled as well now. And the interiors are much more intricate than GT5P 200,000 poly cars.

Also Turn 10 state that Forza 3 cars have 4 x the texture detail that Forza 2 had. :)



lol why are people so desperate to say xbox is as good as ps3 in graphics?



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NKAJ said:
lol why are people so desperate to say xbox is as good as ps3 in graphics?

We know it is true for multiplateform games.

But for exclusivities...



 

Evan Wells (Uncharted 2): I think the differences that you see between any two games has much more to do with the developer than whether it’s on the Xbox or PS3.

NKAJ said:
lol why are people so desperate to say xbox is as good as ps3 in graphics?

WRONG, look at the forums, look at the threads. The REAL question is:

"Why are people so desperate to say PS3 is as good as XBOX360 in graphics?"

That's the real question.