clealry lets just pretend both of these consoles have every game (not wii games cause thats different) even exclusives of the other (which don't make them exclusives) then clearly ps3 wins but if you wanna play halo with your friends then you gotta buy a 360...

get my point hardware wise get the ps3 plus just like 360 it has some its own exclusives like LBP and GT5
ps3 has a better value

1. Since when does 360 not have backwards compatibility? My Pro xbox has it, why wouldn't an elite?

2. PS3 does have backwards compatibility with PSone games I'm pretty sure. Yeah I know you can't play PS2 games if you were too cheap to buy the 60 gig, but the PSone had a huge and great library of games.

Hardware is only as good as the software it runs.

The Xbox 360 runs more, better software.  The CLOSEST thing we have to an objective standard or if Khuutra would prefer the closest thing we have to an aggregate of popular opinion, confirms this.

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This chart is full of errors. 360 has back compatibility with all the popular Xbox games. Since when does Sony's video store offer instant streaming? It also ignores a plethora of additional features on 360 that are not available to the PS3.

As far as to the average consumer. They want a games console for games. Most of them will see which one offers the games they want, not which one uses DVD-9 and which one uses Blu-ray, or which one has WiFi and which one doesn't.

Starcraft, popular opinion is not a confirmation of anything. Hell, Metacritic isn't even popular opinion - it's a collective aggregate of a very specific and narrow band of value sets. If you want to get picky about it, popular opinion is only shown in sales, and if we go by that then the Wii has the best software library by far.

But popular opinion is not indicative of anything. That's ignoring that individuals can have unique value sets that determine what makes an experience good for them. That's why I chose a 360 over a PS3, you know: I wanted to play Gears co-op online with my little brother.

HOW the HELL can you say "better software" ?!

It's based on opinions, it's not FACT. jeez
I on the other hand enjoy the collection of exclusive for the PS3 more than Xbox 360's exlusive collection, but that doesn't mean it's BETTER, but I think it's better, and you think Xbox 360's software is better. Opinions are OPINIONS.

It's starcraft, he takes Metacritic as fact.

No he doesn't.

Sure this does not always have an effect on what your own personal opinion of the best software is, but from a non-owner of either system perspective, it stands that the 360 has the most software and the "better" software.  This is for people who have not played these games as a guide.  Sure you can still love games that got crappy meta scores, but what he's saying still isn't any less true.  This is the only form of objective comparison for non-owners.  Should it be followed blindly?  No.  Should it be completely ignored?  Also no.  Is it the best thing we have to judge things without personally trying them ourselves?  Most likely yes.

That implies that the comparisons are objective. They aren't.

If you want the only objective comparison? Go for sales.

Bah neither is truly objective.  Lots of things influence sales, too.