quite simple. I want a penalty for flying off the road at high speeds, or dragging the side of the car around a wall. Why play a race simulator that lets you slam your car into barrels and then actually finish the race?

I don't need super details for damage, but I expect at minimum

• loss of steering control at varying levels
• ability to lose a wheel
• ability to lose spoilers
• minor graphical damage to the body
• ability to blow out the engine if you redline it all day long

much more than that and I don't care too much, but the lack of those is a major downside. I've played racing games and turned off the damage and it becomes faster to shoot across the grass in a corner and pick up a penalty than it is to take the corner properly.

It's not that bad a solution.

If you wanted to race with damage, then you'd choose from a pool of ~200.

If you wanted to race w/o damage, then you'd choose from a pool of ~800.

I'm sure there'll be a better solution though.

Didn't he say before that the game is pretty much finished?

Personally, I want real damage, not Forza like damage. Would make me drive a lot more carefully. But then it wouldn't be a racing simulator, it would be a driving sim...

The damage already had an effect on the steering but dont expect it for all models?????
I understand that not all cars will have visable damage but ALL cars need to have a reaction to damage.
Fingers crossed. They have'nt let us down before I'm gona wait till release.

is that Selnor's profile picture in the OP ?

btw as i suspected they want to see the reaction of the crowd.
good thing for them.

GT5 to release in... 2010 confirmed?