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sc94597 on 22 August 2009
Staude said:
Soriku said:
@Staude

That's why there's other options. The GC controller, CC controller, arcade sticks, etc.

You can't be serious.

 

That is not a viable option for releasing a game. You can't limit your fanbase like that. Why do you think that games supporting wii motion plus also supports the old thing ?

 

Because the other thing simply isn't viable. Neither for buisness nor should it be expected of consumers that they have to buy an additional controller to even play your game. That's just how it is.

The targetted audience would most likely own at least 1 of these though. If not, they are willing to buy it. If it is even more of a problem, bundles work. It is much more viable than you may think.



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Mummelmann on 22 August 2009
PhalanxCO said:
KylieDog said:
So buy a PS3 or 360.


This argument is old. How many times must the Wii get looked over or given some spin-off game before people stop complaining and just go buy a console that gets what they want?


Is like buying a PS3 then complaining it doesn't get any Metroid games.

I'm getting really tired of saying this, but I'll say it again:  Not everyone can afford two consoles.

Let's see, I have a house payment, car payments, insurance, student loans, my daughter's tuition, phone and utilities, groceries for a family of 4, gasoline and clothes.  So Mr. Rich Pants, if we should all just own every console, we'll send you our addresses and you can buy them for us.

Ah, but why buy a console you'll be unhappy with? You could save money and buy a 360 Arcade for under 200 bucks and  get these games. Win-win and quite simple, even for people who aren't rich. I am by no means rich either but I prioritize gaming and would rather spend my cash on games and consoles than nights out etc (and indeed I do). If you're that destitute, you won't be able to afford to buy games either so that point becomes, well, pointless.



LordTheNightKnight on 22 August 2009

"I understand the frustration but people get way too offended that series that have never been on Nintendo home consoles don't go to Nintendo home consoles..."

You should see some of the inversion. There was actual whining about the Conduit being Wii exclusive. But after it came out, the whiners "forgot" they did that. Or Monster Hunter 3 (and them getting loads of other major Capcom games isn't acknowledged).



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Staude on 22 August 2009
Soriku said:
Staude said:
Soriku said:
@Staude

That's why there's other options. The GC controller, CC controller, arcade sticks, etc.

You can't be serious.

 

That is not a viable option for releasing a game. You can't limit your fanbase like that. Why do you think that games supporting wii motion plus also supports the old thing ?

 

Because the other thing simply isn't viable. Neither for buisness nor should it be expected of consumers that they have to buy an additional controller to even play your game. That's just how it is.


Except they're not limiting they're fanbase. They can keep the normal Wii remote + nunchuk controls but also add options for other control types if people think the Wii remote + nunchuk suck for the game.

Would you really release a game you've put a lot into on one more machine to perhaps make a little more profit, if it meant gimping the game ?

The psp has a flawless control setup. The wii + nunchuck is not. Atleast for this game. Because of the way you control.

 

 

Half the people complaining in here probably hasn't even played it because you make it out to be something that's irrelevent when it's clearly a big deal.

 

Personally I wouldn't gimp my games controls just to get a few more cash. Especially when it meant ekstra development costs, not to mention that they would already make their money back plus more on the other versions. There are good reason for the psp version. 1 it has a fanbase. 2 The tekken franchise has always with the exception of tekken advance and now tekken 6 on the 360 been exclusive to the playstation consoles. 3. The control setup. This is the real deal breaker. 4. Ekstra development costs. They would have to port the game and they don't know if it would gain any fanbase, not to mention once again.. they would have to ruin the controls.



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deathgod33 on 22 August 2009
KylieDog said:
So buy a PS3 or 360.


This argument is old. How many times must the Wii get looked over or given some spin-off game before people stop complaining and just go buy a console that gets what they want?


Is like buying a PS3 then complaining it doesn't get any Metroid games.

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sc94597 on 22 August 2009
Staude said:
Soriku said:
Staude said:
Soriku said:
@Staude

That's why there's other options. The GC controller, CC controller, arcade sticks, etc.

You can't be serious.

 

That is not a viable option for releasing a game. You can't limit your fanbase like that. Why do you think that games supporting wii motion plus also supports the old thing ?

 

Because the other thing simply isn't viable. Neither for buisness nor should it be expected of consumers that they have to buy an additional controller to even play your game. That's just how it is.


Except they're not limiting they're fanbase. They can keep the normal Wii remote + nunchuk controls but also add options for other control types if people think the Wii remote + nunchuk suck for the game.

Would you really release a game you've put a lot into on one more machine to perhaps make a little more profit, if it meant gimping the game ?

The psp has a flawless control setup. The wii + nunchuck is not. Atleast for this game. Because of the way you control.

 

 

Half the people complaining in here probably hasn't even played it because you make it out to be something that's irrelevent when it's clearly a big deal.

 

Personally I wouldn't gimp my games controls just to get a few more cash. Especially when it meant ekstra development costs, not to mention that they would already make their money back plus more on the other versions. There are good reason for the psp version. 1 it has a fanbase. 2 The tekken franchise has always with the exception of tekken advance and now tekken 6 on the 360 been exclusive to the playstation consoles. 3. The control setup. This is the real deal breaker. 4. Ekstra development costs. They would have to port the game and they don't know if it would gain any fanbase, not to mention once again.. they would have to ruin the controls.

If it was the controls that were the problem(which obviously they are not, there are other options) why wouldn't Namco mention them opposed to "it isn't powerful enough."?



patjuan32 on 22 August 2009
KylieDog said:
Garamond said:
Namco's concerns are valid - they really don't know what the market is on the Wii for a traditional 3D fighter with nontraditional controls. Having to make the game look and possibly even play worse because of hardware limitations only heighten that concern. A fighting game with motion controls don't really add anything to the game, so there's nothing they can really add to a Wii version of Tekken 6 that would make any part of its experience better or even on par with the arcade/360/PS3 versions. They already have experience with PSP ports so those costs shouldn't be as high, and the PSP version is likely going to be graphically inferior by a good margin. It's just that since the PSP is a handheld, graphical differences will be less noticeable since the PSP screen is much smaller than when the game's played for at much higher resolutions. And even then, the PSP's button layout make it more ideal for a fighter than the Wii's default control scheme.

They just think it's too much of a gamble. They could be wrong, but I don't think their choice is simply because they hate the Wii. They just probably don't think there would be enough to justify porting cost for a Wii version.

 

Is no PS2 version either.  Clearly a case of the controls ;)

if it is the controls that are a problem then just outsource the game to 8ing, whom haved developed the Naruto fighting games on the Wii using motion controls for combos.



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Staude on 22 August 2009
Soriku said:
How would it be gimped if there would be other controls? It wouldn't be gimped at all, it would just make Wii controls not very good while other options good. That doesn't even make sense.

the fact that they arent good by default.



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salaminizer on 22 August 2009

there would be no problems with Soul Calibur controls on the Wii, but they preferred to have a poor hack'n'slash spin-off (which seems didn't have problems with Wii's capacity too)



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Staude on 22 August 2009
Soriku said:
What, the Wii controls? If they aren't good what's stopping you from buying other control options?

Try to read what i've written instead of what you just want to read. I've already covered that. It's not viable.



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