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BasilZero said:
Chandler said:
Ugh Night of Champions was so underwhelming. They had a bunch of good set-ups for this PPV and somehow managed to botch them all. Bryan winning over Orton somehow had no impact at all. It just happened and then the PPV ended, it was weird.


I heard the referee's count was also fast so they could possibly a pull a scenario where they would take the title away from Bryan lol. That would be stupid though..but not surprising since its WWE.


They will probably do something like that but I don't see how Triple H could still sell the "Orton is good for business" angle when the guy couldn't even defend his title once. But then again, the whole storyline didn't make much sense anyway.



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A dusty finish tonight?



BasilZero said:
gooch_destroyer said:
A dusty finish tonight?


I can see a future WM match involving Goldust and Cody Rhodes....yes that means a heel turn for Cody Rhodes!

 

Corporate Rhodes AHOY!

Or if you look at the Hell in a Cell Poster you'll see R-Truth in a suit. 



wouldn't suprise me if hhh keeps the title himself he loves that spotlight so damn much



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BasilZero said:
Kasz216 said:


I think there is a difference.     At the time, A-rod was the lackey of the Miz who they were still really trying to maitnain his "megaheel" status.  It's like when Orton pretty much handed ted dibiase and cody rhodes their asses, more or less stalling out Cody Rhodes and outright killing Ted.


Paul Heyman?   Vince would probably be plenty happy to put Axel over Heyman. 

With Ryback it's totally possible they could be using his failed stall to feed Axel.   Lots of the "forsaken lackeys" had at least a lot of temporary success with that kind of angle.

 

I do agree they need more gimics... and the whole Daniel Bryan "Nobody will save him!" storyline seemed... weird, since when was the last time you even saw babyfaces bail each other out?  That's really something else they've been missing, the only time a babyface will ever save another anymore is when one is about to turn heel.

 

Gimics are hard though in this weird "PG/reality" era.

Something like a wrestling tax attorney nobody thought about back in the day... now  a days with how they try and make everything "real" that'd seem... silly.

 

Though me, i prefered the silly campy gimics and battles over weird shit like IRS repossessing some other characters gimic item.


Oh ya speaking of one baby face saving another only to turn heel - that too is gonna happen in the form of Big Show and Daniel Bryan XD.


Actually didn't they do the whole "Big show turns evil to feed his family" thing last year?

I remember that already having been a recent angle where he had to beg for his job.


Either way it'd be nice if goodguys did make the save like they did in the old days...

it makes the heel turns more organic.

 

Shawn Michaels heel turn was so shocking because those two seemed like brothers.  It's not like heel turns never happened before.  One guy turning on another that they've only shared screen time recently?  Doesn't really reasonate.



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Boring RAW was boring. When Paul Heyman talking is the highlight of a 3hour show, something is very wrong.

 

So I am asking, if you were in charge of the WWE, who would you push, who would you hire (if you could get anyone) and who would you fire?

 

Push: Dolph Ziggler, Titus O'Neill, Cody Rhodes, Antonio Cesaro, Fandango

The first four guys are legit awesome wrestlers and I really enjoy watching their matches. Fandango hasn't shown anything impressive yet but I am sure he can do better and his gimmick seems to go over well with the crowd.

 

Fire: All divas except the Bella Twins and AJ, Kofi Kingston, Prince Albert or what hes called right now and his fat friend, Curtis Axel, Jack Swagger, The Great Khali, 3MB

The divas devision in the WWE is a joke, even for diva standards. The other wrestlers are just super boring and have no charisma whatsoever, maybe keep Swagger and make him Kurts disciple or sth.

 

Hire: AJ Styles, Austin Aries, Samoa Joe, Matt Morgan, Abyss, Kurt Angle, Eric Young, Bobby Roode, Gail Kim, Taryn Terrell, Awesome Kong, John Morrison

The two matches between Gail Kim and Taryn Terrell were really impressive imho, maybe the best divas matches I have ever seen. I am not sure if Taryn just tagged along for an awesome Gail Kim performance but she did some stuff that you normally wouldn't see from a regular diva or even most men.

The other wrestlers I just genuinely like and they would make some interesting tag teams with wwe superstars like young/bryan, roode/cesaro or morgan/big show. Kurt Angle is the best wrestler of all time (imho) and there's no show without joe.



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So I am asking, if you were in charge of the WWE, who would you push, who would you hire (if you could get anyone) and who would you fire?

 Push: Dolph Ziggler, Titus O'Neill, Cody Rhodes, Antonio Cesaro, Fandango

The first four guys are legit awesome wrestlers and I really enjoy watching their matches. Fandango hasn't shown anything impressive yet but I am sure he can do better and his gimmick seems to go over well with the crowd.

 Fire: All divas except the Bella Twins and AJ, Kofi Kingston, Prince Albert or what hes called right now and his fat friend, Curtis Axel, Jack Swagger, The Great Khali, 3MB

The divas devision in the WWE is a joke, even for diva standards. The other wrestlers are just super boring and have no charisma whatsoever, maybe keep Swagger and make him Kurts disciple or sth.

 Hire: AJ Styles, Austin Aries, Samoa Joe, Matt Morgan, Abyss, Kurt Angle, Eric Young, Bobby Roode, Gail Kim, Taryn Terrell, Awesome Kong, John Morrison

The two matches between Gail Kim and Taryn Terrell were really impressive imho, maybe the best divas matches I have ever seen. I am not sure if Taryn just tagged along for an awesome Gail Kim performance but she did some stuff that you normally wouldn't see from a regular diva or even most men.

The other wrestlers I just genuinely like and they would make some interesting tag teams with wwe superstars like young/bryan, roode/cesaro or morgan/big show. Kurt Angle is the best wrestler of all time (imho) and there's no show without joe.

I agree with Ziggler, Titus, Rhodes, and especially Cesaro.  Cesaro has main event talent, they really need to find an angle for him to advance.  He probably should have been paired with Heyman and elevated to a top title contender.  Titus has the potential to get there with seasoning.  They need to push the Shield as high level players, as the current storyline has made them look more like pawns.  Both Rollins and Ambrose should be stars in the future.  I'd love to see an Ambrose/Punk feud.

Albert still has a use, I think, but Clay is a bust.  The Miz will never be over no matter how many times they try.  Swagger has actually been good as a tag team guy, he needs to stay in that role.  I'd love to see Christian return to a tag team, as well, especially if it's with a sardonic character.

Bad Influence would be a great hire.  They'd bring personality to the tag division immediately, not to mention excellent in-ring skills.  I'd love to see Samoa Joe come in on fire the way he did in TNA and just start wrecking guys.  Maybe take the IC belt and NOT job to the WWE Title contenders.  That will never happen, though.  Even with Stone Cold's support, they didn't consider him.  AJ Styles is still one of the best performers in the world, I would kill to see him against the top WWE guys.  WWE fans who had never seen him before would be in for a treat.

The Divas division should be burned to the ground and rebuilt.  Keep AJ and Layla, bring up Paige and Emma.  Maybe the Bellas, if they cheat, as they actually have personalities.  Bring in Mia Yim, Angel Williams, Dark Angel (Sarita), and Hailey Hatred.  Maybe even Alpha Female for a Monster Heel run.  I would reform Triple Tails with Kana, Io Shira, and Mio Shirai in a heartbeat and have them do the same kind of take-over angle they did in Smash.  Triple Tails kicked ass.  Oh, and Hikaru Shida, she's a fantastic wrestler and she's also pretty.

 Taryn Terrell really impressed me against Gail Kim.  Even if she was carried somewhat, it was still better than anything you'll ever see from the current Diva crop.  I still cannot believe the WWE ever let her go.  About the only American female matches I've seen that were better were the Gail Kim/Awesome Kong matches and that Gail Kim/Roxy ladder match where Roxy got her head busted open.



^^ Why does everyone want AJ to still be employed? The biggest thing I got from Night of Champions is that she's horrible! She did jack all in that match and won cause she has a cool looking finisher?



darkknightkryta said:
^^ Why does everyone want AJ to still be employed? The biggest thing I got from Night of Champions is that she's horrible! She did jack all in that match and won cause she has a cool looking finisher?


I don't like her much either, her gimmick and on mic performance is horrible but she can wrestle a bit and she really tries, unlike the other divas. The Bella Twins aren't particularly good either but they are twins ffs, thats an asset in itself. Btw, did one of them have plastic surgery?

 

Btw.: Is Big E still around? Haven't seen him in a while.



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Chandler said:

Boring RAW was boring. When Paul Heyman talking is the highlight of a 3hour show, something is very wrong.

 

So I am asking, if you were in charge of the WWE, who would you push, who would you hire (if you could get anyone) and who would you fire?

 

Push: Dolph Ziggler, Titus O'Neill, Cody Rhodes, Antonio Cesaro, Fandango

The first four guys are legit awesome wrestlers and I really enjoy watching their matches. Fandango hasn't shown anything impressive yet but I am sure he can do better and his gimmick seems to go over well with the crowd.

 

Fire: All divas except the Bella Twins and AJ, Kofi Kingston, Prince Albert or what hes called right now and his fat friend, Curtis Axel, Jack Swagger, The Great Khali, 3MB

The divas devision in the WWE is a joke, even for diva standards. The other wrestlers are just super boring and have no charisma whatsoever, maybe keep Swagger and make him Kurts disciple or sth.

 

Hire: AJ Styles, Austin Aries, Samoa Joe, Matt Morgan, Abyss, Kurt Angle, Eric Young, Bobby Roode, Gail Kim, Taryn Terrell, Awesome Kong, John Morrison

The two matches between Gail Kim and Taryn Terrell were really impressive imho, maybe the best divas matches I have ever seen. I am not sure if Taryn just tagged along for an awesome Gail Kim performance but she did some stuff that you normally wouldn't see from a regular diva or even most men.

The other wrestlers I just genuinely like and they would make some interesting tag teams with wwe superstars like young/bryan, roode/cesaro or morgan/big show. Kurt Angle is the best wrestler of all time (imho) and there's no show without joe.

Its not a divas match its a womens match!!



 

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