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All I know is this Ultimate Warrior guy has lost his mind. He keeps putting all these crazy videos on youtube. He pumps himself up on how great his life is and then attacks and complains about other wrestlers. He has all these conspiracy theories on how he was framed for using steriods. What a joke, that guy was using something to have the body he had. He should have kept his mouth shut and stayed quiet. I thought he was crazy in his wrestling years but now he is even crazier. I have lost all respect for him because he has trashed everything he worked for and for basically nothing. Theres something about being humble and silent. Now he will be remembered for his dumb videos and crazy theories instead of wrestling. EPIC FAIL!



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The best thing that the WWE could do would be to turn Cena heel. His fans would despise him and everyone that doesn't like him now still wouldn't. It would be Hollywood Hogan all over again, but WWE doesn't seem to have the balls to do it. Ironic, since Cena is a better heel than face and the WWE is in desperate need for a main event heel.



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amp316 said:
The best thing that the WWE could do would be to turn Cena heel. His fans would despise him and everyone that doesn't like him now still wouldn't. It would be Hollywood Hogan all over again, but WWE doesn't seem to have the balls to do it. Ironic, since Cena is a better heel than face and the WWE is in desperate need for a main event heel.

He was a heel?  was this when he first started? 



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Runa216 said:
amp316 said:
The best thing that the WWE could do would be to turn Cena heel. His fans would despise him and everyone that doesn't like him now still wouldn't. It would be Hollywood Hogan all over again, but WWE doesn't seem to have the balls to do it. Ironic, since Cena is a better heel than face and the WWE is in desperate need for a main event heel.

He was a heel?  was this when he first started? 

He was a heel for quite some time at the beginning of his career.  He was like a wannabe Eminem.  I didn't care for him, but I think that was the point.



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Runa216 said:
amp316 said:
The best thing that the WWE could do would be to turn Cena heel. His fans would despise him and everyone that doesn't like him now still wouldn't. It would be Hollywood Hogan all over again, but WWE doesn't seem to have the balls to do it. Ironic, since Cena is a better heel than face and the WWE is in desperate need for a main event heel.

He was a heel?  was this when he first started? 


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amp316 said:
Runa216 said:
amp316 said:
The best thing that the WWE could do would be to turn Cena heel. His fans would despise him and everyone that doesn't like him now still wouldn't. It would be Hollywood Hogan all over again, but WWE doesn't seem to have the balls to do it. Ironic, since Cena is a better heel than face and the WWE is in desperate need for a main event heel.

He was a heel?  was this when he first started? 

He was a heel for quite some time at the beginning of his career.  He like a wannabe Eminem.  I didn't care for him, but I think that was the point.

Oh right, the white rapper, he's why I stopped watching between 2003 and 2004.  



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Something to jump start the conversation...how would you rank WWF/E's mega stars, and why? Who do you consider a mega-star? etc. I'm just trying to find out because there's a lot of discussion out there about Cena vs Rock vs Hogan, then there are people saying it's all about Austin, or that Michaels is the best, etc. There's Jericho, HHH, Bret Hart, Ultimate Warrior, etc. So who is the top face of the company?

Hulk Hogan?
Stone Cold Steve Austin?
The Rock?
John Cena?
Shawn Michaels?
Bret Hart?
Chris Jericho?

Of those (or whoever else), who do you think is the biggest? (not the best, because we all know that honor goes to Michaels and maybe jericho)



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Biggest? It's obviously hogan, despite what the WWE would like to pretend since he's with TNA right now.

He's by far the most well known wrestler, and was biggest when wrestling was at it's most accepted, when wrestlers used to go on TV shows all the time... and his WCW NWO work alone would of qualified him to be on that list.. at least if your putting Brett Hart and Chris Jericho on there.

If you were to book a tournament of all time greats in their career? Hogan would be booked on top.

The thing about Brett Hart, and Jerihco... as great as they were...

they never really carried a company.

When the Hitman was the WWE's main draw the WWE floundered.

While Jericho, never really was the main guy, and arguably his best work came in WCW where he was more a mid card guy.

Heck even the rock.... that was more Stone Cold's era wasn't it?

I'd rank the list...

 

1) Hogan

2) Austin

3) Cena (he carried more then Shawn did... I mean modern talent just doesn't seem to hold a candle.)

4) Shawn Michaels

5) The Rock

6) Bret Hart

7) Chris Jerhico.



The list of mega star wrestlers really depends on the general public vs the wrestling fan.

General public

Hogan
The Rock
Mocho Man
Andre
Stone Cold

Wrestling Fan (What are they looking for, in ring performer, overall ability, money maker, its really tough)

My Personal

Stone Cold
Rock
Jericho
Michaels
Benoit




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The thing too about Hogan is that he was essentially the last of the "Bruno Sammartino" champs... and the only one in the era when wrestling was popular.

Hogan held the title belt for 4 straight years in a row.

Closest over that is Cena at a little over a year.

To a casual fan, Hogan would likely be seen as the longest reigning champ, back at a time where it seemed like there was more talent in the WWE then any other time.

Heck, to a casual fan I think Macho Man is probably 2.



Only guy who could challenge him is probably Rick Flair but only in the south, and he's not a WWE regular star, but WCW's.