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KylieDog said:


- GBA Transfers

I find this entire concept of needing past games (that I played and capture pokemon on, to boot) and needing to transfer the pokemon on them in order to own them a crock of shit.  Imagine if when the next Zelda comes out it tells you "You cannot play this and that dungeon unless you own a GC version of Twilight Princess".   Just let new games have all new pokemon and dump this bollocks.

They're remaking G/S on the DS so that every Pokemon are catchable in the DS series. (This is what they did to the GBA series. FR/LG has every Pokemon you wouldn't be able to capture in R/S)

 

Also on the subject about Event Pokemon, they aren't too bad anymore considering you can get the events via WiFi now. (Platinum only sadly. HG/SS might have them though)



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- pokemon battle animations.

The core mechanic of the game, and what we see 50% has been basically unchanged since Gold/Silver.

- pokemon sprites still turn off/on when their hit, how about an actual animation for it instead of this flickering spitre BS

-make attacks like Ice beam, flame thrower actually come out of the pokemons mouth if that what they use to do the attack....I mean I saw totodile do water gun attack, but the actual stream of water was coming out of his head and not mouth...yes it was gameplay footage from a recent Gold/silver remake trailer.



 

 

- PC MMO. - like gameplay

-insteresting story.

 -full 3d world and characters.

- stop reusing old things, seriously pikachu have the same sound from the gameboy (red/blue/yellow) era.

 



What Pokemon needs is a return to basics, take out berries and needless amounts of different kinds of Pokeball.. Then after they return to the basics, change it up completely! Then release the game.

Overall I agreed with the OP, very well written, well done.



 

Both Smashchu2 and KylieDog bring up excellent points, though I doubt sales would be all that invigorated by any changes like that. As Montana said, the fad died.

I agree with the whole sentiment, that too much is being recycled, both gameplay wise and technology wise. I don't mind the graphics as much, but they can at least update the fucking sounds!

And I also wish the games would return to having a smaller roster, I liked the "Catch 'Em All" mentality, but that has been completely ruined now, so a return to the 150-200 pokemons would be great to me. Also, not being able to catch all the pokemon because I need more pokemon games to do so, is fucking ridiculuos. I HATE THAT!

And I am still crazy for a 3D Pokemon game on the Wii, taking place in the Red/Blue universe (150 pokemon, and be gone with all the shitty stuff).



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Rainbird said:
Both Smashchu2 and KylieDog bring up excellent points, though I doubt sales would be all that invigorated by any changes like that. As Montana said, the fad died.

I agree with the whole sentiment, that too much is being recycled, both gameplay wise and technology wise. I don't mind the graphics as much, but they can at least update the fucking sounds!

And I also wish the games would return to having a smaller roster, I liked the "Catch 'Em All" mentality, but that has been completely ruined now, so a return to the 150-200 pokemons would be great to me. Also, not being able to catch all the pokemon because I need more pokemon games to do so, is fucking ridiculuos. I HATE THAT!

And I am still crazy for a 3D Pokemon game on the Wii, taking place in the Red/Blue universe (150 pokemon, and be gone with all the shitty stuff).

Ok I have issues with a lot of things said here, but this keeps getting repeated. You guys do realize that from the very first two games onward you have needed at least two different games to catch them all right? That was one of the points of the series. You had to interact with friends to get everything. Yes this has been expanded to an obscene scale, but they also have made trading way way easier. You can trade via the internet now!

I might come and offer a different opinion on pretty much all of this later. Short version is I completely disagree with most of the proposed changes. Then again I look at it from a competitive play perspective, rathe than the casual JRPG perspective. Most of these proposed changes would alienate the potential market of people like me, for people like yourself. As was stated earlier it is a bad idea to serve one market at the expense of the other.



Starcraft 2 ID: Gnizmo 229

I'm not really going to argue what you just said. Sorry. I'm rather going to argue the sales part.

1. Pokemon Diamond/Pearl isn't going to sell just barely better than Ruby. It looks to be selling a good 1.3-1.5M this year (600-800K more), and it should sell at least a million and a half in the future. I consider the likely range for D/P to be around 19-20 million. That's in the middle of Ruby (15.4M) and Gold (23M). Calling it selling a small bit better than its predecessor is silly.

2. Platinum is selling fantastically well. It's not selling poorly, as you seem to claim. You have to compare it to the other 3rd wheelers

Yellow sold 14.5M. That, as Red/Blue, is not going to be achieved again. Crystal (3rd wheel on the wagon to Gold/Silver) sold 6.4M, and Emerald (3rd to Ruby/Sapphire) sold 6.3M. Platinum is at 5.6M already. There's no doubt it will pass 8M, and 10M is actually possible.

The three DS main Pokemons (Diamond, Pearl, Platinum) are actually looking as if they could sell more than the three GBC ones (Gold, Silver, Crystal). That's hardly a drop in the sales of the series!

3. If you compare it to the GBA gen, and include all the spinoffs, there's a major increase. The DS games have already sold 38M, and should easily pass 50M. If HG/SS sells as well as Fire Red/Water Blue did, it will pass 60M with ease. The GBA ones totalled out 33M. Sure, there are more games on the DS one, but in overall sales, Pokemon is definitely growing. In fact, the total sales of the 4th gen of Pokemon are likely to be larger than any previous gen, including the 1st gen!

Pokemon is not by any means dying in sales.

 



the first pokemon were successful because they were released at the peak of the popularity of pokemon anime.



KylieDog said:
finalrpgfantasy said:
the first pokemon were successful because they were released at the peak of the popularity of pokemon anime.

 

The anime based on the game?  How amazing is that!

So the complaint is you need the two additional remakes to round out the roster perfectly? I am not trying to be difficult here, but its hard for me to understand the problem. Seems like having 2 remakes pop everything into the current gen is the solution to your problem. I am not a catch em all style person though, so I would not want to say what is too much.



Starcraft 2 ID: Gnizmo 229

My biggest complaint is with all the AR/Other related cheating mechanics. I know when I battle people locally, I'll win 95% of the time because I spent HOURS AND HOURS IV breeding, and EV training my pokemon. But going online against people who have 31 IV's across the board, various other cheats that took them minutes, it really crushes your ego when you have a 165+ IV pokemon you bred over 300 times JUST to have ONE, and they have 6 at max :/.

My next complaint is WITH breeding. They need to make an item, or some type of messaging system where the breeder contacts you, maybe even for a fee when your pokemon levels up and wants to learn a new move. You can either say learn the move, don't learn the move, and if you have 4 moves already, replace the move with THIS move. SOOO many times I've had to backtrack, losing a high IV pokemon because the daycare man decided to teach Heracross Aerial Ace over megahorn. For those of you that don't know you learn it at level 55, and you need both the MALE and FEMALE with it, so it took a lot of time to get.

Nintendo/Game Freak needs to find a way to block AR ways of cheating so pokemon can be fun competitively again. The daycare needs to be improved for selecting what skills you learn instead of choosing for you. Other than that, I really can't think of a lot of things that need to be changed.