Yes... clearly no creativity or challenge in using an imput system different from the last three generations.

Clearly.

Actually the Wii seems MORE challenging then the HD systems.  Just in a way most people didn't expect and weren't expecting.

I'm sure a lot of 2D devs were pissed when the PS1 came out too.

Oh yeah.. I forgot how new and cool point-and-click is.  And struggling to put something that you wanted to be noticably cooler than last gen, on the Wii hardware, is definately more of a challenge... not the kind I was referring to, but a challenge, nonetheless.

I stand corrected... and stuff.

Why did you do this to us Wii?

they still need to combine it all

tiger ten wii is the best golf game ever

but imagine if it had hd graphics . . . wow

... because everyone knows that the innovations and creativity on the HD consoles meant so much more for gamers, right?

Have you... ever even seen a wii?  Point and click, really?

Little white box... revolutionized the industry... motion controls that everyone is hastily copying...?

Anything?

If your only way of making things more impressive is by utilizing more impressive technology....

Can you really call yourself creative?

I'm going to say.... no.  In fact... that actually makes you the exact opposite of creative.  Relying on technology is the exact opposite of challenging.

In fact, these people seem like well... people who suck at being creative and hate challenges because they're upset they can't do the same things they've been doing with more power.

Considering that a lot of the game programmers, 3d artists etc can earn twice as much as they do at present working on things other than games, there must be some other factor holding them to it. A good programmer for console games has a far easier time stepping into a role in the high performance computing fields for example than a programmer whom has only touched X86. An animator and a 3d modeler could step into a role in the movie industry where theres increasing use of computer animation and 3d effects (the glasses).

Now im not talking about the whole of the games industry staff, im talking mostly about the leads in their respective fields. These are the people who really do define whether a studio is good or bad just by their presence and the decisions they make. These are people who aren't really in it for the money because they could make more in other industries, its the love which keeps them where they are. Take away that love and they may as well follow the money to another job somewhere else.

@ Procrastinato

Yeah, because developers are supposed to make games for themselves instead of the consoumers. And they really need to be creative when making sports games, lol.

lol. EA sports whores out the same stuff over and over anyway

Only 1/10th of a game studio if that (by numbers) would probably be involved with the interface decisons. A programmer, 3d artist, sound artist etc would have no calling to even know how to program and design a Wiimote interface. If you're an artist, innovation is making a prettier picture. If you're a programmer, innovation is making a game run better and introducing cool features, theres no such innovation if they are working on a Wii game because the tricks are old hat, going through the motions stuff.