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Soundwave said:
The thing is I don't think the more "cartoony" style for Mario really is what the masses want.

Yoshi's Island was very inventive visually, but the masses overwhelmingly chose Donkey Kong Country, which wasn't as cartoony/much CGI-ish. The more cartoony Mario gets, I think the more it seems to turn some people off.

The design choice of NSMB recalls the original Super Mario Bros., which was pretty simple, and for better or worse I think there are a lot of people that like that style. Look at something like Wario Land Shake! -- great animation, great sprite work yes ... but it's not going to sell anywhere close to NSMB or NSMB Wii.


Yeah you are probably right. I liked Wario Land's art style, but I very much prefer Paper Mario's though, albeit they are quite close to each other. I don't know, Wario just seems a bit too much messed all the time. But yeah, the art style was definitely a business choice, and one that will pay out sales-wise.

 

btw, my angry post before was directed to the first guy who replied, I didn't notice there were so many other replies inbetween. I'll go edit it now to make it clear.



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You're yelling at a person involved with gaming media. Go figure. I'm just saying, why do you want a game turn into another game that already exists? That's like saying you want a desktop computer to be accessible and portable. It already exists.



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Crazybone126 said:

Yeah I know Paper Mario is an RPG, it just doesn't feel like it anymore.
Yeah this post is making my blood boil too. 


Did you edit this post now because you understood that the rest you had written was bullshit?



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Yup, you are a fanboy. read the post above your post btw.



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Crazybone126 said:
You're yelling at a person involved with gaming media. Go figure. I'm just saying, why do you want a game turn into another game that already exists? That's like saying you want a desktop computer to be accessible and portable. It already exists.


Apparently you didn't but put it into a new post to make sure I'd notice.

It's not the same game, dammit. How can you call an RPG/platforming mixture and a true platformer the same game? They are completely different! Your analogy is rubbish. I don't say I want NSMBWii to contain some rpg elements and have a main city were I can always go back to, all I am saying is that I would prefer this artstyle instead of the one used! everyone seems to understand that except you.



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killeryoshis said:
I would rather have it with sprites :/ Anyway I would like it cel shaded instead though


This would be awesome too. I'd really like them to go a bit cartoony and arty with the game. Of course they won't because that wouldn't sell as well as the game they are currently developing, but it definitely would be amazing.



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"Apparently you didn't but put it into a new post to make sure I'd notice.

It's not the same game, dammit. How can you call an RPG/platforming mixture and a true platformer the same game? They are completely different! Your analogy is rubbish. I don't say I want NSMBWii to contain some rpg elements and have a main city were I can always go back to, all I am saying is that I would prefer this artstyle instead of the one used! everyone seems to understand that except you."

 

I DO understand what you are saying. It just doesn't seem like a choice Nintendo would bother to make. Nintendo isn't known for taking an artstyle from another franchise and putting it into a different franchise. Nintendo likes difference between their titles, it helps market a game more and also it would show there is no competition between the games. Hypothetically speaking, can you imagine what would happen if NSMB Wii launched alongside (or closely to) Super Paper Mario 2 with a somewhat identical artstyle. Consumer's wouldn't know which one to choose from, making sales go down for one of the games. The thing about the consumer is that they don't pay attention to the difference in gameplay style of a game. They wouldn't know if a game was a RPG or just a platformer or not. Mario is just that big of a name, if they see the name Mario they would just pick it up. But if there are two similar looking Mario games, they would be lost.

Besides all of us here know that artsy Mario games don't sell as well as normal Mario titles. Nintendo would never turn another game into an artsy game.

Also can you tone the swearing thing down a bit? I didn't swear at you. Let's have a civil/professional conversation that does not result into anger or immaturity. 

 



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I'd also like to add that most Wii owners also own a DS as well. And most people who own a DS have NSMB. If Nintendo had changed the artstyle of the game for the Wii, the DS players would feel alienated, therefore possibly losing sales. You have to look at this stuff from a business perspective and not just a "I want" perspective. 

A prime example of a game losing sales because it looks different than its predeccessors is Madden 10 for the Wii. People all over the net are saying they are not buying Madden 10 Wii because of it's new look. The reason is because they now feel alienated so they no longer think the game is meant for them.



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You know, with this thread, I didn't want to make Nintendo change the art style or anything. I wanted to hear what people on this page think about it. But you came in first and talked to me like I was a complete dumbass and recommended me playing Super Paper Mario. Now you have edited most of your posts so it isn't even visible for outsiders how this discussion really went. This is, btw, a really poor move in my opinion, especially for someone that is "in the media". If you edit something, at least mark it as edited, especially if people have replied to your original statement in the meantime.

You didn't swear at me, but you made me look stupid and talked to me as if I had no clue. I didn't swear at you in my first reply either, so I'm not too sure how got the angry feeling into this discussion first, especially reading Monty's comment who apparently was enraged by your original post aswell.
Also, I was never really swearing at YOU. I was using swear words to show my emotion, but I was never calling you names or anything.

If you have read my other posts in this thread, you probably have noticed that I am well aware of the sales potential of the different art styles, so there's no need to post this again here.

Anyway, I'll go to bed now.



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^I only changed one of my posts and it was because I didn't think people were going to comment so quickly.

Not to sound rude but, you do know an exclamation point was created to show emotion, right?



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