Running out of money is your fear, Like France, England, Canada.

There is nothing wrong with having everyone enjoy certain benefits, it wont effect you personally. Yeah Socialism is scary, but so is captalism, what works is when they are combined. Capitalism should not be part of people security, health and for me shelter.

That's where we differ philosophically. To me, a country should afford me all the opportunity to be successful. It has no requirement to insure that I become successful.

And I have other issues with it. I feel a government should never be able to take your property, for the sole purpose of giving it to another person. A free country is supposed to protect you from such actions. Socialized programs are in violation of this right.

1. in the UK, the welfare state does not ensure you success, merely a basic standard of life, so you can pursue success.

2. wrong, stupid misrepresentation of how state housing works, state housing buys houses from private companies to lease to people or the government itself gets pays people to build the houses in the first place, which is also good as it creates jobs for people. 

Not dis-similar to radical Islam.

1. Being able to live without having to do anything, is success.

2. Either state run housing is profitable, or they are taking money from someone to pay for it. That's removing someone's property (money), for the sole purpose of giving it to someone else.

what is successfull, opportunities have to do with health care. What, do you feel like youshould have better health care than me because you make more money? And whose's taking your property to give it away. For a group of people who stand behind religion and God, the right seems more worried about themselves than everybody which makes no sense.

I don't want your health care, your money, your property, you can keep them. I just want a chance to get my own and everyone else, how evil and scary is that?

1. not how i define it

2. again, not how i see it

would you prefer that people were on the streets? 

I am not on the right, I am a Libertarian, and an Atheist.

And do I feel I should have better healthcare because I make more money? Yes. Money is effort.

I know, 100% in my mind, that I could have been a millionaire by now, if I tried hard enough. I didn't want to put the effort in that it took to get there. So, I don't deserve the rewards that come with those efforts. 

A millionaire has better healthcare then I do, and I am happy for him. I on the other hand, took life balance over the advantages of working that many more hours towards something.

I have something a millionaire doesn't. The free time, lack of responsibly, the memories of all the things I did instead of study, and work for it.

Why should I get the luxury of having both the better healthcare and my free time, while he only gets the healthcare?

Money is effort, and effort should be rewarded.

Good night all.

I would prefer everyone have the opportunity to be successful. What they do with that opportunity is unimportant to me. If they don't do anything with it, and starve on the street, well, that was there choice.

I think government needs to pick up the slack where it fails in opportunity, but the goal should be to increase opportunity, and decrease government support, not the other way around. 

do you still not get it

more effort does not always equal more money, nor is effort the only reason you get more money

the system is not fair when it comes to pay, to say otherwise at this point is just naive and stubborn