Second Civil War Coming to USA?

[TheRealMafoo]

SciFiBoy said:

TheRealMafoo said:

psrock said:

Running out of money is your fear, Like France, England, Canada.

There is nothing wrong with having everyone enjoy certain benefits, it wont effect you personally. Yeah Socialism is scary, but so is captalism, what works is when they are combined. Capitalism should not be part of people security, health and for me shelter.

 

 

That's where we differ philosophically. To me, a country should afford me all the opportunity to be successful. It has no requirement to insure that I become successful.

 

And I have other issues with it. I feel a government should never be able to take your property, for the sole purpose of giving it to another person. A free country is supposed to protect you from such actions. Socialized programs are in violation of this right.

1. in the UK, the welfare state does not ensure you success, merely a basic standard of life, so you can pursue success.

2. wrong, stupid misrepresentation of how state housing works, state housing buys houses from private companies to lease to people or the government itself gets pays people to build the houses in the first place, which is also good as it creates jobs for people. 

1. Being able to live without having to do anything, is success.

2. Either state run housing is profitable, or they are taking money from someone to pay for it. That's removing someone's property (money), for the sole purpose of giving it to someone else.