Second Civil War Coming to USA?

[SciFiBoy]

TheRealMafoo said:

SciFiBoy said:

1. in the UK, the welfare state does not ensure you success, merely a basic standard of life, so you can pursue success.

2. wrong, stupid misrepresentation of how state housing works, state housing buys houses from private companies to lease to people or the government itself gets pays people to build the houses in the first place, which is also good as it creates jobs for people. 

1. Being able to live without having to do anything, is success.

2. Either state run housing is profitable, or they are taking money from someone to pay for it. That's removing someone's property (money), for the sole purpose of giving it to someone else.

1. not how i define it

2. again, not how i see it

would you prefer that people were on the streets?