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Sicilian. said:
Khuutra said:
That is the worst definition of socialism I have ever, ever, ever heard.

Ever.

 

–noun
1. a theory or system of social organization that advocates the vesting of the ownership and control of the means of production and distribution, of capital, land, etc., in the community as a whole.
2. procedure or practice in accordance with this theory.
3. In the Marxist theory, the stage following capitalism in the transition of a society to communism, characterized by the imperfect implementation of collectivist principles.

 

Well these are direct from dicitionary.com. Looks like Karl Marx's definition got in there to... 

 

Absolutely.



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Hold onn it's going to take me a minute to get my foot out of my mouth



SciFiBoy said:
Viper1 said:
He has socialist tendencies and ideas and many of his programs are more socialist than capitalist in nature.

I would call him a mild Fascist Social Interventionist

O_o

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Facist

Have you read that Wiki entry?  I have.  Combine all 3 terms and don't focus on just facism alone.



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Viper1 said:
SciFiBoy said:
Viper1 said:
He has socialist tendencies and ideas and many of his programs are more socialist than capitalist in nature.

I would call him a mild Fascist Social Interventionist

O_o

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Facist

Have you read that Wiki entry?  I have.  Combine all 3 terms and don't focus on just facism alone.

Trying to combine Fascism with most other schools of thought is very difficult

Socialism in particular, since it actively rejects socialism



Viper1 said:
SciFiBoy said:
Viper1 said:
He has socialist tendencies and ideas and many of his programs are more socialist than capitalist in nature.

I would call him a mild Fascist Social Interventionist

O_o

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Facist

Have you read that Wiki entry?  I have.  Combine all 3 terms and don't focus on just facism alone.

the first part i read, i still dont see how one could define Obama as a Facist, even if your merely using it as an insult, that just makes your post flamebait?

he is no where near being a social interventionist, please explain what eugenics he has been involved in, in what way is he commiting ethnic cleansing?

Hitler was a facist, to compare Obama to him, is just delusional and desperate, clearly you have some sort of irrational hatred of the man, otherwise, you wouldnt even bring up facism in the first place in relation to him.

 



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Last I heard, nobody in the US government wants to scrap Medicaid, so I guess they're all a bunch of filthy pinkos.



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SciFiBoy said:
Viper1 said:
SciFiBoy said:
Viper1 said:
He has socialist tendencies and ideas and many of his programs are more socialist than capitalist in nature.

I would call him a mild Fascist Social Interventionist

O_o

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Facist

Have you read that Wiki entry?  I have.  Combine all 3 terms and don't focus on just facism alone.

the first part i read, i still dont see how one could define Obama as a Facist, even if your merely using it as an insult, that just makes your post flamebait?

he is no where near being a social interventionist, please explain what eugenics he has been involved in, in what way is he commiting ethnic cleansing?

Hitler was a facist, to compare Obama to him, is just delusional and desperate, clearly you have some sort of irrational hatred of the man, otherwise, you wouldnt even bring up facism in the first place in relation to him.

 

I said mild didn't I?  Did I say extreme?  Why does everyone think of the worst case examples when looking at political and social capacities?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_interventionism

Try reading that.

 



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Viper1 said:
SciFiBoy said:

the first part i read, i still dont see how one could define Obama as a Facist, even if your merely using it as an insult, that just makes your post flamebait?

he is no where near being a social interventionist, please explain what eugenics he has been involved in, in what way is he commiting ethnic cleansing?

Hitler was a facist, to compare Obama to him, is just delusional and desperate, clearly you have some sort of irrational hatred of the man, otherwise, you wouldnt even bring up facism in the first place in relation to him.

 

I said mild didn't I?  Did I say extreme?  Why does everyone think of the worst case examples when looking at political and social capacities?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_interventionism

Try reading that.

 

isnt the stuff in the first paragraph good?

Social interventionism is an action which involves the intervention of a government or an organization in social affairs.[1] Such policies can include provision ofcharity or social welfare as a means to alleviate social and economic problems of people facing financial difficulties; provision of health care; provision of education; provision of safety regulations for employment and products; delivery of food aid or recovery missions to regions or countries negatively affected by an event; adoptionprograms; etc.

why would you object to thoose things?

also, how is Obama even a mild facist? can you back that up?

 



Fascist is a bit of a loaded word. Not many people won't take offense if you call them one. I suggest you use corporatist and/or authoritarian (both are arguable, but I think you could make a case), since I don't think Obama's especially nationalistic for an American head of state.



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Yes....but I really dont care..

The country has been on a shitty path as it is...and if he makes better without fucking it up....ok...if he fucks up...oh well....