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bugrimmar on 06 August 2009
aavidbacon said:
This is not only true, but the main selling point of the PS3. Normal, "casual" gamers, people who likes games, but not enough to talk or get informed about them, have this image of the PS3 being more powerful.
This is why they buy it at close numbers to the x360, despite the price difference. This is clever marketing and a thing they should stress more and more, cause allows them an edge till they are capable of levelling the price.
If or when that happens, this perception(PS3>x360) can assist the PS3 selling more than x360, despite producing the same graphics and having more or less the same games.

well said. it is true, to a certain extent, that the ps3 is more powerful in some ways than the 360, though of course the difference is very small.

but yes, that "aura of superpower" is helping sales quite a lot. 



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numonex on 06 August 2009

The PS3 is marginally better in terms of graphics due to having three times as many 3.2GHz processors (9) as the XBox 360 (3). In terms of overall game performance and frame rates the games are equal or marginally better on the XBox 360 due to DVD drive reading game discs faster than the PS3s Blu-Ray players. Mandatory game installations are required for most PS3 games due to slow reading of the Blu-Ray player in the PS3. Game installations are not required for the XBox 360 DVD game discs.
*The PS3 exclusive games are marginally better than XBox 360 exclusive games in terms of graphics.
**The multi-platform games PS3 and XBox 360 are equal or considered marginally better on the XBox 360.



KungKras on 06 August 2009

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Scoobes on 06 August 2009
bugrimmar said:
Staude said:
bugrimmar said:
^I'm running an i7 processor. there's no way that a 3 year old thing can be faster than something produced this year. ask a real tech person to get the details.

it really looks like a lot of people bought Sony's PR..

The cell is built differently. Your cpu is a general purpose one while the cell is not. Your cpu may well not be as good as the cell. I'm not saying it isn't but it may well not be.

 

It might just be you who are too sceptic :p or would like to think  better of that which you've spent a small fortune on.

or you're too blinded by the PR. think about the process of technological advance. can something produced three years ago possibly be more advanced than something produced this year?

better yet, think about the results of your wonderful cell processor so far. anything produced so far that is "absolutely mindblowing" that goes beyond something like crysis, or empire total war? if you mention killzone 2, which runs at 720p and 30fps maximum, then *laugh*.

try to get past the PR, my friend. think about the realities of technology. 

Everything you just mentioned is more to do with GPU than CPU. The Cell is actually more powerful than current CPUs in terms of RAW performance, but both chips in the PS3 are completely destroyed in terms of power by modern GPUs. In fact, for most PC games these days the CPU is becomming less important with most stuff being shifted to GPUs e.g. PhysX for Physics. A powerful GPU is far more important than a powerful CPU.

If you want to think about the realities of technology then you need to understand that the Cell processor isn't designed like normal CPUs and in numerous tasks is still more powerful then current X86 CPUs, not to mention the fact that its based on PowerPC. In fact the 360 CPU is likely more powerful then a lot of current X86 CPUs due to this as well.




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TRios_Zen on 06 August 2009
Staude said:
bugrimmar said:
^I'm running an i7 processor. there's no way that a 3 year old thing can be faster than something produced this year. ask a real tech person to get the details.

it really looks like a lot of people bought Sony's PR..

The cell is built differently. Your cpu is a general purpose one while the cell is not. Your cpu may well not be as good as the cell. I'm not saying it isn't but it may well not be.

 

It might just be you who are too sceptic :p or would like to think  better of that which you've spent a small fortune on.

On what are you basing this?  Have you seen benchmarks for performance of the cell versus newer Intel/AMD processors?  OR are you simply going off the numbers that Sony has provided in the past?

On topic, I would say that yes, Sony's marketing folk are masters at overselling the power of thier products.

 



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bugrimmar on 06 August 2009
TRios_Zen said:
Staude said:
bugrimmar said:
^I'm running an i7 processor. there's no way that a 3 year old thing can be faster than something produced this year. ask a real tech person to get the details.

it really looks like a lot of people bought Sony's PR..

The cell is built differently. Your cpu is a general purpose one while the cell is not. Your cpu may well not be as good as the cell. I'm not saying it isn't but it may well not be.

 

It might just be you who are too sceptic :p or would like to think  better of that which you've spent a small fortune on.

On what are you basing this?  Have you seen benchmarks for performance of the cell versus newer Intel/AMD processors?  OR are you simply going off the numbers that Sony has provided in the past?

On topic, I would say that yes, Sony's marketing folk are masters at overselling the power of thier products.

 

yeah, remember the EMOTION ENGINE able to produce TOY STORY LIKE graphics?



Staude on 06 August 2009
Scoobes said:
bugrimmar said:
Staude said:
bugrimmar said:
^I'm running an i7 processor. there's no way that a 3 year old thing can be faster than something produced this year. ask a real tech person to get the details.

it really looks like a lot of people bought Sony's PR..

The cell is built differently. Your cpu is a general purpose one while the cell is not. Your cpu may well not be as good as the cell. I'm not saying it isn't but it may well not be.

 

It might just be you who are too sceptic :p or would like to think  better of that which you've spent a small fortune on.

or you're too blinded by the PR. think about the process of technological advance. can something produced three years ago possibly be more advanced than something produced this year?

better yet, think about the results of your wonderful cell processor so far. anything produced so far that is "absolutely mindblowing" that goes beyond something like crysis, or empire total war? if you mention killzone 2, which runs at 720p and 30fps maximum, then *laugh*.

try to get past the PR, my friend. think about the realities of technology. 

Everything you just mentioned is more to do with GPU than CPU. The Cell is actually more powerful than current CPUs in terms of RAW performance, but both chips in the PS3 are completely destroyed in terms of power by modern GPUs. In fact, for most PC games these days the CPU is becomming less important with most stuff being shifted to GPUs e.g. PhysX for Physics. A powerful GPU is far more important than a powerful CPU.

If you want to think about the realities of technology then you need to understand that the Cell processor isn't designed like normal CPUs and in numerous tasks is still more powerful then current X86 CPUs, not to mention the fact that its based on PowerPC. In fact the 360 CPU is likely more powerful then a lot of current X86 CPUs due to this as well.

Well i'm glad you said it so I wouldn't have to.

 

I do know my tech stuff and I suggest that you, bugrimmer, learn a thing or two aswel before making assumptions. This isn't meant to offend you but the processor really is that powerful.



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leo-j on 06 August 2009

Nope that isn't true for me, in my school if you tell someone the PS3 is more powerful you get blasted immediately with "who cares no games" and "the online is crud the wii is better to play online with", you rarely get a positive response.

Also some people dont care what you say, the 360 is more powerful just like how the original XBOX was more powerful(according to everyone that isn't a core gamer in my school).

Its why sometimes I think not even a free ps3 would convert people -_-



 

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richardhutnik on 06 August 2009
bugrimmar said:
er, did you guys bother reading the post before replying?

i'm not talking about anything related to how good it really is or whatever. i'm talking about sony's PR penetrating casuals.

I would say you have a flawed sample space.  As far as I have seen it, when I ask around, is most people don't think there is much difference at all between the 360 and PS3.  Sony doesn't have good PR.  It is possible what you do see is rationalization that the extra cost = more power.



susymar on 06 August 2009

PS3 is powerfull yeah. More (not specifying how much more here) than any other console. And more than my own PC T-T

But it isn't as powerfull as iPhone!!!!!!!!!!!!

iPhone is god.