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There should be a crime against frivolous lawsuits.



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I'm with Manus. If the court rules that your lawsuit is retarded on several grounds, you have to pay the defendant. Not reimburst just the costs of the lawsuit, but actually pay compensation and a fine for waisting everyone's time and not thinking things through.

Ever since the McDonalds hot coffee cup, the US is basically a laughing stock when it comes to law and Europe is slowly sliding down there as well.



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It took me 8 months to get my first "real" job after graduation, and even though my university was really helpful the reason I got the job was one of my oldest brother's friends submitted my resume for me and ensured that I got an interview. Personally, if I was to give new grads one peice of advice on finding a job it would be to ask their family, and their friends' families, if they knew of anyone who was working at a company who might be looking for a new grad.

Most new grad positions are not advertized, and very few use the university's career services because they get flooded with unqualified applicants and even the qualified applicants have very little to seperate them on their resume. While people may think that their high GPA makes them more qualified for a position, there are a wide variety of skills (like social skills) which are not demonstrated in a person's grades that matter far more than the information they gained in school; for example, it is often better to hire the B student with exceptional social skills rather than the A studen with decent social skills, and it is always better to hire the C student with exceptional social skills than the A student with "acceptable" social skills.

Finally, one thing I have been seeing more and more of lately is "kids" who don't realize the damage they're doing to their potential chances based on what they're posting on the internet. A couple of years ago a girl I knew was talking about how her sister graduated from university and it had taken over a year for her to find a job. The first thing I asked her to do was to google her sister's name and what popped up was her sister's myspace page ... Needless to say, I don't think many companies really wanted to hire a girl who had so little sense that she posted a picture of herself in her panties and bra while smoking a joint.



ManusJustus said:
There should be a crime against frivolous lawsuits.

This ^



   

HappySqurriel said:

It took me 8 months to get my first "real" job after graduation, and even though my university was really helpful the reason I got the job was one of my oldest brother's friends submitted my resume for me and ensured that I got an interview. Personally, if I was to give new grads one peice of advice on finding a job it would be to ask their family, and their friends' families, if they knew of anyone who was working at a company who might be looking for a new grad.

Most new grad positions are not advertized, and very few use the university's career services because they get flooded with unqualified applicants and even the qualified applicants have very little to seperate them on their resume. While people may think that their high GPA makes them more qualified for a position, there are a wide variety of skills (like social skills) which are not demonstrated in a person's grades that matter far more than the information they gained in school; for example, it is often better to hire the B student with exceptional social skills rather than the A studen with decent social skills, and it is always better to hire the C student with exceptional social skills than the A student with "acceptable" social skills.

Finally, one thing I have been seeing more and more of lately is "kids" who don't realize the damage they're doing to their potential chances based on what they're posting on the internet. A couple of years ago a girl I knew was talking about how her sister graduated from university and it had taken over a year for her to find a job. The first thing I asked her to do was to google her sister's name and what popped up was her sister's myspace page ... Needless to say, I don't think many companies really wanted to hire a girl who had so little sense that she posted a picture of herself in her panties and bra while smoking a joint.

These are all very good points of advice.


The last one I find especially important simply because so many young people don't really think of the implications of the google culture that we live in now. The internet is not your house, the things you do on the internet are visible to everyone. It boggles my mind seeing 17 and 18 year olds (and younger, especially younger) being shocked that people can see their extremely public acts and pictures on the internet and can be held accountable for them. Teachers, bosses, parents, police, they all have access to youtube, myspace, facebook, and google and do know how to use them. If I had a nickel for every time a friend or a friend's kid did something incredibly stupid or illegal and posted it for everyone to see, I would have enough money to bail at least a couple of them out.

But also yes, the first points to. You just can't expect to get a diploma and somebody gives you a job with an office and a window. Real life doesn't work like that.



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HappySqurriel said:

It took me 8 months to get my first "real" job after graduation, and even though my university was really helpful the reason I got the job was one of my oldest brother's friends submitted my resume for me and ensured that I got an interview. Personally, if I was to give new grads one peice of advice on finding a job it would be to ask their family, and their friends' families, if they knew of anyone who was working at a company who might be looking for a new grad.

Most new grad positions are not advertized, and very few use the university's career services because they get flooded with unqualified applicants and even the qualified applicants have very little to seperate them on their resume. While people may think that their high GPA makes them more qualified for a position, there are a wide variety of skills (like social skills) which are not demonstrated in a person's grades that matter far more than the information they gained in school; for example, it is often better to hire the B student with exceptional social skills rather than the A studen with decent social skills, and it is always better to hire the C student with exceptional social skills than the A student with "acceptable" social skills.

Finally, one thing I have been seeing more and more of lately is "kids" who don't realize the damage they're doing to their potential chances based on what they're posting on the internet. A couple of years ago a girl I knew was talking about how her sister graduated from university and it had taken over a year for her to find a job. The first thing I asked her to do was to google her sister's name and what popped up was her sister's myspace page ... Needless to say, I don't think many companies really wanted to hire a girl who had so little sense that she posted a picture of herself in her panties and bra while smoking a joint.

Your point about grades vs. social skills is HIGHLY situational.  It might work for some business degree but for other degrees like say computer science that doesn't work.  Good companies will generally worry more about how qualified the person it and if they're social, that's a perk.  The bad companies that aren't successful worry so much if the person is the perfect fit that the person just sucks and you still have about the same office atmosphere that you would have anyways.  My wire has worked at a few of both types of companies and the ones that look for social skills or the perfect personality fit always just plan suck (and this is going from the tech side of jobs).

And yeah, if you're looking for a job, make MySpace, Facebook, twitter, and everything else private.  If you can't make it private, delete it.  If a photo of you is tagged on someone else's album and they won't take it down, delete the tag.  It sounds silly but yes, employers will Google you.



That's lame, I hope she gets knocked off her feet.
Of course it's gonna be a hassle to find a job, especially in this economy.
I haven't found a job all summer but I finally had an interview earlier today.



I LOL'd at her GPA quite a bit....oh man..that is...wow. I'm with Twesterm you leave that off your resume if that is your GPA. I'd be embarrassed to show anything less than a 3.8 in-major and a 3.5 overall.

Just based on her attitude I can tell you that I wouldn't hire this person...Aside from the completely piss-poor approach to solving her problem (ie BLAME OTHERS!) you have to wonder if she is going to sue you over something pointless and stupid as well.

Reminds me of a case my dad was dealing with recently where a woman who worked for him he had to fire because ..well she was a bad employee (3.5x more complaints than anyone else from customers sustained over 3 months). She filed a suit against him claiming age discrimination because she was "old" (in her early 30s)..one problem both my dad and other employees still working (in her position no less) are much much older than her. Needless to say it didn't get very far.

Some people are just petty...and some people are looking for that quick and easy way out of doing work in their life. These two traits seem to come together in pairs and when they do you get people like this. Normally I don't like to judge someone based on one thing they do (we all have pissy moods and bad days) but you don't get to this point without having thought it through.

Also from what I hear she is representing herself - which as they say means she has a fool for a client.



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ManusJustus said:
There should be a crime against frivolous lawsuits.


Don't you mean law? Or do you mean she should get beaten up for being a twat?

Also, WTF is a GPA?



I got studentes like this... they always think we are going to solve their problems for them.. they can't seem to do anything themself.. Sure.. your attendence is good and you have allright numbers but most of them are talentless shit cause they just sit there and basicly listen what I have to say.. No responce, no questions asked about what I'm teaching... I hate them!

 



 

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