This is a legitimate gripe, and frankly the original poster doesn't deserve to be given a hard time for what they are saying. These are two known problems. First you have large mandatory installs, and then second the console shipped with very limited space. While you are all throwing workarounds at the poster your forgetting the fact that you shouldn't need workarounds on consoles. You buy a console to game instantly and without hassle.

You definitely shouldn't have to be doing data management. It is inconvenient to be deleting and reinstalling games to the machine to play them. You should just shove the disc and be able to play in short order. You absolutely shouldn't be compelled to upgrade a console. Upgrading is for the PC not for the all in one box. Consoles are about convenience if some would turn off their fan beams they might actually see the forest from the trees.

The reality is that Sony made two major mistakes. First the hardware encouraged developers to make their games with large mandatory installs. Second Sony failed in quality assurance in that they let them bring games to the console that required it. This is a problem with forethought on the part of Sony. On the upside the problem is going away with time, but the early adopters are still left paying the price.

They have a right to be upset. Especially since they already ponied up so much cash in the first place. With a lot of money spent comes the realistic expectation of greater quality. A owner just shouldn't have to deal with this kind of crap when it comes to a console.

I think the fail from Sony was to allow game developers to do mandatory installations. On a system which can have as low as 20 GB of hard drive space, this is a big inconvenience especially for those who aren't used to the PC way of doing things.

This is acceptable on PCs, but consoles were traditionally expected to be a more immediate and simple experience (and judging from sales in this generation, that's still the case).

So yeah, all in all I think Sony failed here. To be specific, they failed at providing the experience expected on a console.

Home can take up the same amount of space as a large game install if you download every area to the drive buffer while using it even though it clears once you shut down. There are a lot of areas in Home currently, and it just keeps expanding.

But claiming this is in any way a shortcoming or failure on the part of Sony is just Full of Stupid.

Delete some stuff if you want to use and complain about how pointless Home is or just buy an $85 bullet and get yourself a 500GB drive. Problem permanently solved.

I think developers hate Sony enough as it is without Sony making them hate Sony more.

You really don't NEED an installation, especially not a large one. None of my Sony games have more than a 500MB install, if any at all (except inFamous, which is around a gigabyte for some reason).

Is this what you expect to need when you buy a console?

delete Far Cry 2 anyway that game is garbage.


P.S Home is also garbage you're not missing out on anything.

This is no more unacceptable than memory cards were in the Playstation 1 era versus cartridge saving.  It's simply change.

During the PS1/N64 era, people learned to buy memory cards.  If they didn't have enough space on one, they had to buy more.  It wasn't a fail of the console manufacturers, it was just the way technology had progressed.  Likewise, today if you don't have enough space you can buy another HDD and very easily swap it out.

People who are complaining are simply showing their unwillingness to change with the times.  Just remember, that which does not change gets left behind. 

When Kowenicki starts defending the PS3, you've failed and might as well stop

Most people think that having the HDD(developers included) is actually a benefit not a hassle.

Sony also don't charge you for for hella expensive HDD like the competition.

On the PS3 you can get 500GB of storage for less than the price of two games.

Quit complaining as your are less hindered here to purchase digital content on this system than any other this generation. Be happy you have the least expensive option it could be memory sticks or something.

Sure, and I want my $350 back for being an early adopter of the Xbox 360.

HDD may have been optional, but with 20GB it was on the verge of being worthless even back in 2007. With the increased reliance upon HDD space (and larger DD file purchases), it is almost completely worthless if you use online services, installs and all the other benefits that come with a decent sized drive.

Sony's HDD solution has been the best storage solution yet to grace a console, giving a full range of choices in capacity at market prices. If upgrading drives is too technical or difficult for some, I do believe the 40GB model was made available along side the more expensive 80GB model.

So complaining about having less space while not wanting to pay for more is more than a bit hypocritical.