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i thought the movie was great and easy to follow. i found the characters and story to both be very interesting.

i think you might not have been able to understand the story because you seem to be obsessed with manhattans penis. which seems odd since its wasnt even the focus of any shot. go watch some pornography prior to watching the movie to get your penis fix out of the way. then return and tell me if you thought the movie made more sense to you.



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I loved the blue penis. It was awesome watching it make the audience really uncomfortable.



It was great for people who read the novel, and was much more significant than the dark knight.



 

 

im_sneaky said:
It was great for people who read the novel, and was much more significant than the dark knight IMHO.

Fix'd. I didn't enjoy Dark Knight initially, but let it marinate and I think it's a work of art. This? It won't get mentioned in the same sentence as Dark Knight? Show me one - just one - Oscar performance in 'Watchmen.'

@ Mr. Bubbles - there was a blue penis?!



I will shank you.

But seriously, I saw it in the theatre twice and LOVED it both times. My parents just rented it and only got an hour in and had to shut it off. It is a bit slow at times but great overall. A truly dark, gritty masterpiece that stays true to the graphic novel.



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tedsteriscool said:
I will shank you.

But seriously, I saw it in the theatre twice and LOVED it both times. My parents just rented it and only got an hour in and had to shut it off. It is a bit slow at times but great overall. A truly dark, gritty masterpiece that stays true to the graphic novel.

Shank me or the OP?

If you want to shank me, thanks for telegraphing your intentions. I dare you.



madskillz said:
tedsteriscool said:
I will shank you.

But seriously, I saw it in the theatre twice and LOVED it both times. My parents just rented it and only got an hour in and had to shut it off. It is a bit slow at times but great overall. A truly dark, gritty masterpiece that stays true to the graphic novel.

Shank me or the OP?

If you want to shank me, thanks for telegraphing your intentions. I dare you.

The OP for dissing the movie on points that don't make much sense.



tedsteriscool said:
madskillz said:
tedsteriscool said:
I will shank you.

But seriously, I saw it in the theatre twice and LOVED it both times. My parents just rented it and only got an hour in and had to shut it off. It is a bit slow at times but great overall. A truly dark, gritty masterpiece that stays true to the graphic novel.

Shank me or the OP?

If you want to shank me, thanks for telegraphing your intentions. I dare you.

The OP for dissing the movie on points that don't make much sense.

Well, it is HIS opinion. I thought the movie was Ok at best. I will likely never own it. You liked it more than him and he's entitled to his views, etc.

Good night, all.



From the sound of it, you wanted to see a movie with a lot of action, big breasted women, and absolutely simple plot with no thinking involved. Sure, those movies are great and I like them too, but that's not Watchment. And just because your uncultured doesn't mean the movie was bad.

The movie was long because it had to do the entire graphic novel in one movie. There are no sequels and working it in parts wouldn't have worked. If you can't sit down for 3 hours then you have a poor man's attention span.

The Comedian and other characters played a specific role in portraying a kind of character. But they all were playing something similar... a superheroe in uniform but a real person in life. Not everyone is going to be this character that is pure justice and good. And even with as much power as they gain they won't always be good characters. That was the main premise of Watchmen. Put superheroes in real life and then see what happens or what if they were real this is what they'd be like. The Comedian was no different. He had a very nihilist view of the world. He understood the world to be evil and corrupted and saw no way to fix it. So have fun with it while you are there because its just a joke. You aren't mean to like him but you can see where he comes from.

To understand the story you have to think. It's an alternate timeline where the Cold War is still raging in the 1980s and tensions are high. As you go along you start unmasking a conspiracy along with learning more and more about the characters. It's really easy to follow as long as you are actually paying attention and following how these characters are interacting and stories being told about them.

And this is where you lost me. One of the best qualities of the movie and novels is character devleopment. It's all about the characters. All about how if superheroes were real and in real life this is what would happen to them. Especially with Dr. Manhattan who actually had super powers. Someone who knows everything and has the world sitting on his hands is going to be different. Even further why save humanity when people don't deserve help. Or Rorschach who's extremist right wing views and moral objectivism drives him to continue to be a vigilante as he can't compromise when evil exists.

The rest I need not comment on.

Personally i loved the movie and the graphic novels. They provide a great story with great characters (in the fashion of comic books) but also give a lot of good themes, messages, and questions to ask among yourself while you are reading or watching. Not only that, but the uniqueness of some of the characters and now they progress in the story is astounding. Truly a great movie and something I could really talk about for awhile.



LMAO this is my last reply in this thread because you guys are simply ridiculous. Telling me to read the novel to a movie I am basically saying that I hated. Why would I waste my time doing that? Youre Trying to convince me the story in the movie was deep and the characters were well developed. No thanks. I no longer wish to partake in such nonsense.

It's my opinion on the movie. Simple. Don't like it? Too bad. The movie was horrible. Got horrible reviews. Was somewhat of a box office flop (not horrible numbers, but not as good as expected)

The film was big on special effects, thin on story. Kind of like the Fast and the Furious movies. What was the movie about? Super heros being hunted? Funny, they spent more time showing Dr Manhatten meditating on Mars than they showed Heros being hunted.

I made this thread to vent some frustrations after wasting 3 hours on this crap movie. I'll leave it with some quotes from critics that I agree with:

As a result, it's not until the second hour of "Watchmen" that a satisfying narrative groove emerges. That's too late.

Any chance at generating emotional investment in the characters is gone. Any good will from optimistic audience-members has been squandered. Clock-watching has set in.


Did they really pull it off? Has the novel, long called unfilmable, actually been filmed, and well?

Unfortunately, no. Because “Watchmen,” for its remaining two-plus hours, is essentially all downhill from there. It delves deeply into the novel’s mythology and tells its story, very badly, to the point where I can’t imagine anyone who hasn’t read the book even beginning to understand much of it. I know I didn’t.

Yes, the film looks great, and I’m told it’s faithful to the book.

The biggest problem with “Watchmen” is at the screenplay level. The story, as adapted by David Hayter and Alex Tse, just plain isn’t told very well, and the introduction of both the characters and mythology are extremely difficult to follow for anyone not already intimately familiar with both.

The story is told in a bizarrely roundabout way, jumping back and forth through time, into and out of flashbacks, all the while alternating between too much expository dialogue and not enough.


The reverential tone stands in the way of storytelling. 300 had a similar feel, but it needed that treatment to prop up its thin plot. Watchmen, on the other hand, is dense and needs room to breathe. Snyder never provides that, resulting in a stifling experience, even at a running time of 163 minutes.


This may be everything Moore's fans have hoped for but there is little for the average film fan to understand let alone enjoy.


The film's storytelling and image-making lack originality and vitality. Nothing sticks to your memory unless you come in with recollections of the book.


Except for a few strong performances (balanced out by a few awful ones) and the strength of the ideas at the core of Watchmen, the film is a complete disaster, one of the biggest disappointments of the last several years.


It wasn’t that I wasn’t engaged in some of the (many) story lines, it’s just that there was never enough time spent with any particular one to so as to become emotionally involved … which seem strange to say about a movie 165 minutes long.


Not"Watchmen" but a not-so-incredible simulation that reduces a complex examination of the dynamics of dopey superhero epics into just another dopey superhero epic.


An overlong, overstuffed endurance test with precious few highs. Being an adaptation of this particular graphic novel, I can forgive many things, but I can't forgive a film version of Watchmen for being boring.


Watchmen has a few moments of brief wonder, but the rest is a soulless, unimaginative work, a flat adaptation with a Bob Dylan soundtrack.



With Snyder, "visionary" means he's all about the visuals, and he does mine Watchmen for impressive, computer-enhanced eye candy. But Snyder is tone deaf to stultifying dialogue and wooden performances.


The result is oddly hollow and disjointed; the actors moving stiffly from one overdetermined tableau to another.


It pains me to say that, while scrupulously faithful in nearly every regard (save the ending) to writer Alan Moore and artist Dave Gibbons' landmark DC Comics series, the film itself is bizarrely cold and uninvolving.



Stunning visuals with lots of thrilling, mindless action sequences don't compensate for an overstuffed, confusing plot and bland, forgettable superheroes that leave you feeling underwhelmed.




It seems to be the consensus. Great special effects, boring story and characters.


That's just off a couple pages of the rottentamatoes reviews. I didnt even go searching for the really bad ones.
I know you can find bad reviews on any movie, but all the complaints on Watchmen all seem to be the same from everyone, which shows a major flaw in the movie and not just one person nitpicking.