| silentmac said:
Ok well what site or magazine is less biased scores higher than IGN then? I have seen a ton of people complain that they are too lenient on Wii games... |
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| silentmac said:
Ok well what site or magazine is less biased scores higher than IGN then? I have seen a ton of people complain that they are too lenient on Wii games... |
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Words Of Wisdom said:
What you really mean. |
That is true to some extent but you have to understand that the IGN guys go home and play 360 with their peers and I'm sure it is hard for them not to compare Wii games to the competition. Also, most other publications are far more harsh and even IGN's other teams would be far more critical if they reviewed Wii games. Complaining that IGN's Wii team is overly biased when the rest of the industry obviously detests the Wii is not really fair IMO.
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silentmac said:
Ok well what site or magazine is less biased than IGN then? I have seen a ton of people complain that they are too lenient on Wii games... They score third party games that are geared toward their reader's demographic pretty high IMO.. For instance: The Conduit 8.6 Mad World 9.0 Okami 9.0 Zack & Wiki 9.0 RE4: 9.0 PES 2k8 8.6 etc. Most people instantly give Nintendo first party titles 9.0 or better and sometimes this is deserved and sometimes it isn't. Now most sites also tend to over rate games if they have great visual on the HD consoles as well... I agree they could be more subjective with their reviews but honestly they are far more Wii friendly than just about any other gaming publication. |
Exactly. Wii games 'that are geared toward their reader's demographic'. In other words, they upscore the games they think the readers like and ignore/downscore the others. Now yes, there's some blatant anti-Nintendo sites out there. But IGN isn't without its faults and bias is my main point. And on the whole, I'm someone who thinks you shouldn't listen to a reviewer to be your judge of wither to buy a game anyway. With so many forms of media, previews and youtube/gametrailers now adays, there's no need to read a 2-4 page bias and opinionated summary of a game (which the reviewer never finished in the first place).
Yea, 7.7 sounds about right. It's fun, but could(and should) have been much more.
Kenryoku_Maxis said:
Exactly. Wii games 'that are geared toward their reader's demographic'. In other words, they upscore the games they think the readers like and ignore/downscore the others. Now yes, there's some blatant anti-Nintendo sites out there. But IGN isn't without its faults and bias is my main point. And on the whole, I'm someone who thinks you shouldn't listen to a reviewer to be your judge of wither to buy a game anyway. With so many forms of media, previews and youtube/gametrailers now adays, there's no need to read a 2-4 page bias and opinionated summary of a game (which the reviewer never finished in the first place). |
You have a point. I just don't think IGN is anywhere near the worst offender.
I personally watch videos and try to decide what to buy on my own although for the most part highly scored games I usually like. On the other hand, some games that have bad metascores I got anyway and liked....
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| Kenryoku_Maxis said: Why do people keep reading IGN? Especially considering this:
Its pretty obvious their bias'. Not to mention the majority of their reviews are how they 'felt' playing the games. Disliking anything except Metroid or random games they consider 'innovative' (Zack and Wiki). And downscoring everything else, claiming 'lack of innovation' or 'too much innovation'. And then certain reviewers having bias for or against certain genres (like Matt obsessing over FPS and Action games and Bozon downscoring RPGs). But the major problem is, as stated above, IGN is comparing all games to GTAIV now. And as a result, all Wii games are going to be automatically inferior due to a preconception of limited graphics and 'story'.
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It was going to come out from someone. I knew it would eventually. I was only a matter of time. Yes, IGN is biased...even though they are the ones who gave The Conduit one of its' highest scores, sitting well above the current average.
Yes, IGN is biased against the Wii

Kenryoku_Maxis said:
Exactly. Wii games 'that are geared toward their reader's demographic'. In other words, they upscore the games they think the readers like and ignore/downscore the others. Now yes, there's some blatant anti-Nintendo sites out there. But IGN isn't without its faults and bias is my main point. And on the whole, I'm someone who thinks you shouldn't listen to a reviewer to be your judge of wither to buy a game anyway. With so many forms of media, previews and youtube/gametrailers now adays, there's no need to read a 2-4 page bias and opinionated summary of a game (which the reviewer never finished in the first place). |
So....because WSR is geared toward the "casuals" and not the "reader's demographic", and since WSR is probably really fun for the "casuals"...this game should be rate 90 or higher? I think that's what you're trying to say....and that would mean all the CRAP (I mean the literal crap on the system, like Game Party) on the Wii should be rated extremely high, because those games target the "casuals" and are really fun to them (why else did Carnival Games sell like 3 million?), and not the "reader's demographic".
Do you see the fault in that logic? There has to be some standard, otherwise Mario and Sonic should be scored in league with MGS4 and Bioshock. You can't call "bias" just because they scored differently than how you feel....or I'll say that all review sites are PS3 biased because they scored Haze low. Haze wasn't a game for "gamers", it was game for people who only enjoy FPSs with broken controls and what we would consider cheesy storylines. To those people, that game was a 10/10, so if you didn't score it that way, you are biased

Regardless of reviews this game will sell extraordinarily well. Will it be bundled? If not, how will that affect the overall sales?
BMaker11 said:
So....because WSR is geared toward the "casuals" and not the "reader's demographic", and since WSR is probably really fun for the "casuals"...this game should be rate 90 or higher? I think that's what you're trying to say....and that would mean all the CRAP (I mean the literal crap on the system, like Game Party) on the Wii should be rated extremely high, because those games target the "casuals" and are really fun to them (why else did Carnival Games sell like 3 million?), and not the "reader's demographic". Do you see the fault in that logic? There has to be some standard, otherwise Mario and Sonic should be scored in league with MGS4 and Bioshock. You can't call "bias" just because they scored differently than how you feel....or I'll say that all review sites are PS3 biased because they scored Haze low. Haze wasn't a game for "gamers", it was game for people who only enjoy FPSs with broken controls and what we would consider cheesy storylines. To those people, that game was a 10/10, so if you didn't score it that way, you are biased
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No, I was not trying to say any of the stuff you just thought I was trying to say. Re-read it. All I was saying is they upscore games they think are going to be popular with their core readers or are going to be major releases. And for games that don't get large marketing buzz or aren't popular on their site, its a mixed bag wither the people at IGN give it much attention or an accurate score. Because they really don't have to give a game like 'Pinball Hall of Fame: The Williams Collection' the same amount of playtime and scrutiny as 'Fire Emblem: Radiant Dawn'. Though the downside to spending less time on the 'lesser' game is a less accurate review, which is noticeable.
Also, it has nothing to do with saying a game like 'Reel Fishing Challenge' should be as high as 'Mario Galaxy'. Obviously These games are quite different in quality and each game needs to be looked at separately.
Now in some ways, the people at IGN have gotten a little better. But they are still brazenly opinionated. Who can forget Matt and co basically sitting on their podcast making fun of WiiMusic before it came out. But they still have clear issues with many of Nintendos products, which causes a problem when you are trying to write reviews and information on Nintendo products. And there's other problems, such as Bozon, who seems to compare every RPG to three of his favorite RPGs from the past. Yet they make him do most of the RPG reviews (I wonder why a lot of the RPG scores for DS/Wii seem lower than expected...). And these views get into their reviews.
These reviews are all over the place. From 8.9 down to 6.5.
Great job IGN for giving players good guidelines on which games to play.
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