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Barozi on 14 July 2010
Pristine20 said:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FIFA_World_Cup

Scroll down to the part where it says ''Total finishes in top 4" Germany has done better overall than even Brazil besides actual victories i.e WC wins.


We lost more finals than the Dutch hooray !



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FootballFan on 14 July 2010
Barozi said:
Pristine20 said:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FIFA_World_Cup

Scroll down to the part where it says ''Total finishes in top 4" Germany has done better overall than even Brazil besides actual victories i.e WC wins.


We lost more finals than the Dutch hooray !

We have 100% record in WC finals



Pristine20 on 14 July 2010
Barozi said:
Pristine20 said:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FIFA_World_Cup

Scroll down to the part where it says ''Total finishes in top 4" Germany has done better overall than even Brazil besides actual victories i.e WC wins.


We lost more finals than the Dutch hooray !


I just looked at the chart again and noticed...lmao.



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Slimebeast on 14 July 2010

I'm still so disappointed by Holland.

Holland is supposed to be the "Brazil of Europe" dammit. Highly skilled, offensive and so entertaining. Now , in my opinion, they made fools of themselves by playing like a B rated national team. And no it was not just because of the rough and dirty play. They had the chance to write history and what do they do - try to win by playing ultra defensive like Greece. And obviously Spain would win. Only by watching the first 10 minutes I knew it was all over for Holland. I mean, didn't they watch Spain vs Portugal and Spain vs Germany? I've never seen a Dutch team allow themselves to be dominated by the opponent in a such a way.

The difference in skills between Spain and Holland just isn't that big as Holland made it look in the final. Really it looked like a team that has no confidence in their ability. I hope they fire that coach. This loss will be etched in Dutch heads for decades. Labeled as "the little guy" for years to come.

Why, oh why didn't they play their own game...

 



pastro243 on 14 July 2010

What did Egypt do to get that high?



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sad.man.loves.vgc on 15 July 2010
pastro243 said:

What did Egypt do to get that high?


they won the last 2 african cups.



sad.man.loves.vgc on 15 July 2010
Slimebeast said:

I'm still so disappointed by Holland.

Holland is supposed to be the "Brazil of Europe" dammit. Highly skilled, offensive and so entertaining. Now , in my opinion, they made fools of themselves by playing like a B rated national team. And no it was not just because of the rough and dirty play. They had the chance to write history and what do they do - try to win by playing ultra defensive like Greece. And obviously Spain would win. Only by watching the first 10 minutes I knew it was all over for Holland. I mean, didn't they watch Spain vs Portugal and Spain vs Germany? I've never seen a Dutch team allow themselves to be dominated by the opponent in a such a way.

The difference in skills between Spain and Holland just isn't that big as Holland made it look in the final. Really it looked like a team that has no confidence in their ability. I hope they fire that coach. This loss will be etched in Dutch heads for decades. Labeled as "the little guy" for years to come.

Why, oh why didn't they play their own game...

 

Because they don't have a good striker, van persie sucked badly and he shouldn't be playing as a starter and Kyut is good but he is painfully inconstant and his strogenst points don't include scoring anyway.

It was so obvious that they will pass to robben whenever there was a chance and even if there wasn't and even if he was surrounded by 3 players they would still pass!

And spain is hard to be dominated just like barcelona, when teams like Inter Milan and Chelsea that have much more potential to outplay the current holland team play defensive against Barcelona that should tell you something! add to that Iker Casillas, Sergio Ramos, Navas and Cesc Fabgregas. yeah it's not that they didn't learn from portugal mistakes - which is a better team in my opinion- it's just that there wasn't really much they could do.



FootballFan on 15 July 2010
sad.man.loves.vgc said:
Slimebeast said:

I'm still so disappointed by Holland.

Holland is supposed to be the "Brazil of Europe" dammit. Highly skilled, offensive and so entertaining. Now , in my opinion, they made fools of themselves by playing like a B rated national team. And no it was not just because of the rough and dirty play. They had the chance to write history and what do they do - try to win by playing ultra defensive like Greece. And obviously Spain would win. Only by watching the first 10 minutes I knew it was all over for Holland. I mean, didn't they watch Spain vs Portugal and Spain vs Germany? I've never seen a Dutch team allow themselves to be dominated by the opponent in a such a way.

The difference in skills between Spain and Holland just isn't that big as Holland made it look in the final. Really it looked like a team that has no confidence in their ability. I hope they fire that coach. This loss will be etched in Dutch heads for decades. Labeled as "the little guy" for years to come.

Why, oh why didn't they play their own game...

 

Because they don't have a good striker, van persie sucked badly and he shouldn't be playing as a starter and Kyut is good but he is painfully inconstant and his strogenst points don't include scoring anyway.

It was so obvious that they will pass to robben whenever there was a chance and even if there wasn't and even if he was surrounded by 3 players they would still pass!

And spain is hard to be dominated just like barcelona, when teams like Inter Milan and Chelsea that have much more potential to outplay the current holland team play defensive against Barcelona that should tell you something! add to that Iker Casillas, Sergio Ramos, Navas and Cesc Fabgregas. yeah it's not that they didn't learn from portugal mistakes - which is a better team in my opinion- it's just that there wasn't really much they could do.

Also Robben couldn't hit the back of the net. When he had enough chances to win the game for Holland on his own.



sad.man.loves.vgc on 15 July 2010
FootballFan said:
sad.man.loves.vgc said:
Slimebeast said:

I'm still so disappointed by Holland.

Holland is supposed to be the "Brazil of Europe" dammit. Highly skilled, offensive and so entertaining. Now , in my opinion, they made fools of themselves by playing like a B rated national team. And no it was not just because of the rough and dirty play. They had the chance to write history and what do they do - try to win by playing ultra defensive like Greece. And obviously Spain would win. Only by watching the first 10 minutes I knew it was all over for Holland. I mean, didn't they watch Spain vs Portugal and Spain vs Germany? I've never seen a Dutch team allow themselves to be dominated by the opponent in a such a way.

The difference in skills between Spain and Holland just isn't that big as Holland made it look in the final. Really it looked like a team that has no confidence in their ability. I hope they fire that coach. This loss will be etched in Dutch heads for decades. Labeled as "the little guy" for years to come.

Why, oh why didn't they play their own game...

 

Because they don't have a good striker, van persie sucked badly and he shouldn't be playing as a starter and Kyut is good but he is painfully inconstant and his strogenst points don't include scoring anyway.

It was so obvious that they will pass to robben whenever there was a chance and even if there wasn't and even if he was surrounded by 3 players they would still pass!

And spain is hard to be dominated just like barcelona, when teams like Inter Milan and Chelsea that have much more potential to outplay the current holland team play defensive against Barcelona that should tell you something! add to that Iker Casillas, Sergio Ramos, Navas and Cesc Fabgregas. yeah it's not that they didn't learn from portugal mistakes - which is a better team in my opinion- it's just that there wasn't really much they could do.

Also Robben couldn't hit the back of the net. When he had enough chances to win the game for Holland on his own.

I understand the pressure , the whole team was passing to him.

Spain are just too good and the only team who has similar potentials is England but Cappello fucked up badly.



Chrizum on 15 July 2010
sad.man.loves.vgc said:
FootballFan said:
sad.man.loves.vgc said:
Slimebeast said:

I'm still so disappointed by Holland.

Holland is supposed to be the "Brazil of Europe" dammit. Highly skilled, offensive and so entertaining. Now , in my opinion, they made fools of themselves by playing like a B rated national team. And no it was not just because of the rough and dirty play. They had the chance to write history and what do they do - try to win by playing ultra defensive like Greece. And obviously Spain would win. Only by watching the first 10 minutes I knew it was all over for Holland. I mean, didn't they watch Spain vs Portugal and Spain vs Germany? I've never seen a Dutch team allow themselves to be dominated by the opponent in a such a way.

The difference in skills between Spain and Holland just isn't that big as Holland made it look in the final. Really it looked like a team that has no confidence in their ability. I hope they fire that coach. This loss will be etched in Dutch heads for decades. Labeled as "the little guy" for years to come.

Why, oh why didn't they play their own game...

 

Because they don't have a good striker, van persie sucked badly and he shouldn't be playing as a starter and Kyut is good but he is painfully inconstant and his strogenst points don't include scoring anyway.

It was so obvious that they will pass to robben whenever there was a chance and even if there wasn't and even if he was surrounded by 3 players they would still pass!

And spain is hard to be dominated just like barcelona, when teams like Inter Milan and Chelsea that have much more potential to outplay the current holland team play defensive against Barcelona that should tell you something! add to that Iker Casillas, Sergio Ramos, Navas and Cesc Fabgregas. yeah it's not that they didn't learn from portugal mistakes - which is a better team in my opinion- it's just that there wasn't really much they could do.

Also Robben couldn't hit the back of the net. When he had enough chances to win the game for Holland on his own.

I understand the pressure , the whole team was passing to him.

Spain are just too good and the only team who has similar potentials is England but Cappello fucked up badly.

England, really? England doesn't have a very good selection compared to Spain, Holland, Brazil and Germany. I'd put even Argentina above England when it comes to pure quality of the players.