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Munkeh111 on 13 June 2010
kowenicki said:

serbia v ghana

another trnse and boring game...

Think Ii will watch the grand prix instead.


The Grand Prix can be squeezed between matches 2 and 3, still, I have been quite disappointed by the quality of these opening matches. Still I want to see how well the Germans are going against Australia this evening



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Lord Flashheart on 13 June 2010

Hopefully we'll have out first one sided event.

Well first one sided event will goals to reflect that.



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Munkeh111 on 13 June 2010
kowenicki said:
Munkeh111 said:
kowenicki said:

serbia v ghana

another trnse and boring game...

Think Ii will watch the grand prix instead.


The Grand Prix can be squeezed between matches 2 and 3, still, I have been quite disappointed by the quality of these opening matches. Still I want to see how well the Germans are going against Australia this evening

its hard watching a game where you want both teams to lose!!! 


Well... I actually want the Germans to win. Assuming we come top, then we are not going to face them until the 3rd/4th place play off (if my predictions are right) if they win here {and more importantly, beat Argentina in the quarters and lose to Spain in the semi final}



haxxiy on 13 June 2010
selnor said:
haxxiy said:
selnor said:
kennyrester said:
kowenicki said:

Yeah, was on a flight last night so missed the game..

Just finished watching it.  No problems really, dodgy goalkeeping moment and rooney playing quite badly aside I thought we did ok.

Heskey and Gerrard were superb I thought.  we will qualify easily.

If the US had actually trued to play in the second half rathert than just sit back then we would have nicked as few goals.

Usual hysteria when we dont smash 3 or 4 goals from the press and people who only watch football once every 4 years....  we will be fine.  The US will bore their way through too.

 

 

What were you watching? The USA are a team of journeymen and England resorted to lumping the ball up to Heskey/Crouch for the entire match. Why aren't you depressed by that? Other than assisting the goal Heskey created sweet fuck all. He gave the ball away as much as he won it, against very average defenders. All that's expected of him is the odd knock down and he just about did that acceptably, but missed an absolute sitter at 1-1.

I was very surprised England played that badly, they're an immensely talented team. Rooney didn't play badly, he got no service as your disfunctional Gerrard-Lampard midfield were unsurprisingly rubbish and were bypassed by the long ball. The USA tried to play more than England when they had the ball and actually attempted to string a couple of passes together but were let down by a general lack of talent.

The only thing you said that I do agree with is that you will qualify easily, and probably in first place

What game did you watch? England played very well. Every team has poor moments and passing in every match. Brazil, France, Italy lose the ball numerous times a match due to pathetic passing.

It just matters how many chances are created. It's this pathetic downing of England all the time that is so dire IMO.

England created alot of chances that were good. On a another night England would have had 3 or 4 goals with these chances. It's been awhile since England have played good passing along the 'GROUND' all match. Hesky played well. I was impressed with him. I thought we defended open play well, but were lacks on set pieces. Unusual for England. 

It was by no strecth of the imagination a poor performance. And to right USA off ( they beat the full Italy and Brazil teams in the last year ) is pathetic. 

England looked good. Unlucky IMO. People need to stop being pundits and be realistic.


What you are talking about? USA lost against Italy 3-1 and against Brazil 3-2. Not only that, they lost Concacaf's Gold cup finals to Mexico 5-0.

My apologies. It was Spain they beat. I meant to say they were 'beating' Brazil. The performance against Brazil was amazing by USA. And Mexico? Every team has a blunder much. Look at Algeria today. They were faves against Slovenia. Either way I expect USA and England to go through easily of the dire performances of Alg and Slov. That is a poor performance. What England did was good. World Class? No. But it's the first match. We never see world class in any first World Cup match from any team. Solid yes. 

Regardless, this talk of England being poor is unfounded. They played well. Had a wealth of chances. Sometimes in football the ball just doesnt fall kindly. It's football after all. Argentina played well and only scored 1 goal as well. 

I hope Green plays the next match to. That can happen to any keeper in the world cup. It was a freak moment that is very rare for a keeper to make twice in a season let alone a World Cup.

Oh yes, now it is obvious to me that you were trying to refer to USA verse Spain. Anyways England and USA should go to knock-off with no problems, I agree.

But I still believe that England is a bit over-hyped this cup. They are a great team, yes, but in my opinion other four teams have better chance to win.



 

 

 

 

 

pastro243 on 13 June 2010
selnor said:
haxxiy said:
selnor said:
kennyrester said:
kowenicki said:

Yeah, was on a flight last night so missed the game..

Just finished watching it.  No problems really, dodgy goalkeeping moment and rooney playing quite badly aside I thought we did ok.

Heskey and Gerrard were superb I thought.  we will qualify easily.

If the US had actually trued to play in the second half rathert than just sit back then we would have nicked as few goals.

Usual hysteria when we dont smash 3 or 4 goals from the press and people who only watch football once every 4 years....  we will be fine.  The US will bore their way through too.

 

 

What were you watching? The USA are a team of journeymen and England resorted to lumping the ball up to Heskey/Crouch for the entire match. Why aren't you depressed by that? Other than assisting the goal Heskey created sweet fuck all. He gave the ball away as much as he won it, against very average defenders. All that's expected of him is the odd knock down and he just about did that acceptably, but missed an absolute sitter at 1-1.

I was very surprised England played that badly, they're an immensely talented team. Rooney didn't play badly, he got no service as your disfunctional Gerrard-Lampard midfield were unsurprisingly rubbish and were bypassed by the long ball. The USA tried to play more than England when they had the ball and actually attempted to string a couple of passes together but were let down by a general lack of talent.

The only thing you said that I do agree with is that you will qualify easily, and probably in first place

What game did you watch? England played very well. Every team has poor moments and passing in every match. Brazil, France, Italy lose the ball numerous times a match due to pathetic passing.

It just matters how many chances are created. It's this pathetic downing of England all the time that is so dire IMO.

England created alot of chances that were good. On a another night England would have had 3 or 4 goals with these chances. It's been awhile since England have played good passing along the 'GROUND' all match. Hesky played well. I was impressed with him. I thought we defended open play well, but were lacks on set pieces. Unusual for England. 

It was by no strecth of the imagination a poor performance. And to right USA off ( they beat the full Italy and Brazil teams in the last year ) is pathetic. 

England looked good. Unlucky IMO. People need to stop being pundits and be realistic.


What you are talking about? USA lost against Italy 3-1 and against Brazil 3-2. Not only that, they lost Concacaf's Gold cup finals to Mexico 5-0.

My apologies. It was Spain they beat. I meant to say they were 'beating' Brazil. The performance against Brazil was amazing by USA. And Mexico? Every team has a blunder much. Look at Algeria today. They were faves against Slovenia. Either way I expect USA and England to go through easily of the dire performances of Alg and Slov. That is a poor performance. What England did was good. World Class? No. But it's the first match. We never see world class in any first World Cup match from any team. Solid yes. 

Regardless, this talk of England being poor is unfounded. They played well. Had a wealth of chances. Sometimes in football the ball just doesnt fall kindly. It's football after all. Argentina played well and only scored 1 goal as well. 

I hope Green plays the next match to. That can happen to any keeper in the world cup. It was a freak moment that is very rare for a keeper to make twice in a season let alone a World Cup.

It really wasnt, Brazil wasnt playing well and the 2 times USA actually got away from their side they scored, then turned into their own side to defend the result which obviously didnt work against Brazil, the score wouldve endd 4-2 since Kaka scored a header but they didnt count the goal, but the TV replay showed it went in.

They did the same against spain. And Mexico seems to have better players than USA.

I think England had to use the fact that they have better ball control and use some players to win some fouls and maybe a red card, thats what you do against big strong and dumb deffenders, but from what I saw they tried to much to win in speed and strengh which isnt the way you have to do it with USA. Anyway the match wouldve ended in an England win if it wasnt for the big mistake so i dont think England has to worry for now until they play against a big team.



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BBH on 13 June 2010

Least the Britons are dominating to F1. Love Schumacher though, he doesn't take no crap on the race track lol.

Expecting good things from Germany now. 



BBH on 13 June 2010
kowenicki said:
BBH said:

Least the Britons are dominating to F1. Love Schumacher though, he doesn't take no crap on the race track lol.

Expecting good things from Germany now. 



You mean he is washed up and has to resort to dirty tactics... he will get moved down for some of his antics in that race.

Anyway... nice 1-2 for the brit drivers and brit team.

 

On balance I think I want Germany to beat the aussies... if only that listening to aussies after a win would be unbearable.


Yea, nothing like a bit of aggression and contact imo. 



jonop on 13 June 2010

Looking forward to this. I think this could be a tight game.

1-0 Germany quite quickly.



jonop on 13 June 2010

2-0 to Germany. Mabye this won' be so close... 

Germany look like they are going to score every time they come forward. Austrailias defence isn't as good as last world cup.



Carl on 13 June 2010

Ze Germans are looking really good