I like GT5 more because I can unlock cars on the PSP version and they'll be unlocked on the PS3 version.

@bitmap frogs

Give me some examples of those pre-baked animations and exploits, i'm eager to try them on here on my laptop since i've fired up PES 2009 and i'm looking for those exploits that you're claiming to be there.

Pass to corner, run with the ball along the edge of the area and once the player is in front of the goal shoot.

Depends on the roll of the dice wether it's a goal or not, but works everytime for him. I've watched him win every master league match using that. It was his crutch anytime things went sour. He usually kickstarts the new season on the easiest level and gradually increases the difficulty. That was on ps2 PES games, and I've seen him using the same routine for years. Worked for him on every pes since early 2000's.

Anyways, we are getting off-topic. PM's or a new thread would be a good idea.

On topic, which game will sell more? PD has more momentum and a bigger name behind them, therefore they will, in all probability, sell more. T10, is an uprising star with a great game that is comparable (could even be better...but lets wait till both games come out to determine that) to the GT monster. So, they will come close in sales...and could even surpass...although IF that happened, it wouldn't be by much.

@bitmap frogs

Yes it was a bit offtopic, but I just wanted to know your opinion ;).

@ironman

I think Forza 3 can definetily make better numbers than Forza 2, and that it will attract more american public to it, thus taking some of the sales from GT. It will all come down to brand momentum as you said, so until GT has a proper release date and more details, it can only be speculation

@ Ironman

Forza 3 has NO CHANCE of outselling GT5. Lol, Im disturbed you just said that. The GT5 demo outsold Forza 2 (which was heavily bundled and advertised)

@Taz

Now I feel that i have to correct you, i'm a GT fan and even i know that what you've said was wrong.

GT5:P sold about 3.05M and Forza 2 is at 4.00M, look it up on the database, it's easy.

as lestatdark said plus the fact that prologue was heavily bundled as well

I do believe there is a chance that forz will outsell Gran turismo(A small chance)

Exactly, it's highly unlikely, but the demographics have changed, so it is possible.

So what were people saying that for a while back? I think maybe GT5p outsold F2 1st week wise. Oh, and F2 was far more heavily bundled and PSN GT5p sales aint been added on.
And F3 doesn't have a small chance of outselling GT5, it has no/a miniscule chance.