The 360 is on a serious roll right now, so no its not underachieving at all... there are some things that keept it from booming even at an extremely low pricetag ( Nintendos more casual Wii, recession, old hardware issues, not so powerfull brandname in places like asia and europe as in the US etc. ).

Overall its doing great, though its rivals could potentially do even more witha similar pricetag...

Of course its $700,when it hits the sweet spot like PS3 and Wii then it will sell.

good thread man keep up the good work.........

the xbox360 is a poopy face how do you like that fanboys? lol I had to throw that out there cause someone said the thread maker is going to be attacked because of his thread.......... only a gay videogame junkie that sits on there ass all day playing 360 would cry them self to sleep over this thread and I think since the 360 as of right now could sell another 10million next year cause it still has all the games but I honestly think for some odd reason although it has all the games it's going to come in 3rd place this generation of gamin consoles but then again possibly 2nd.............

Puncuation is neccessary.  And nobody is crying, they are debating and pointing out flaws in the OP.

Go to my thread its better.

http://www.vgchartz.com/forum/thread.php?id=79006

Its about how the Xbox 360 is overachieving and why the Xbox 360 will recieve a price cut this year.

360 is doing well, but come this Christmas with a slim, price cut, and FF XIII PS3 will close the gap substantially and quickly.

The, please do analyse anything ever again. It just won't work out.

You are completly biased. I mean, you know the result before you do your Analysis. That's just wrong. You should have an analaysis to get a unknown result.

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Okay, there were some people talking about Xbox Live not being profitable. How much might it be to run a service like Xbox Live? 6 months ago, MS announced that 17 million gamers are using Xbox Live. That is quite a number. And we have heard, that there are up to 60% gold members. That would be 10.2 million, but let's say 10 million, just because it is easier to calculate with. The Xbox Live membership is 50USD / year (I know you can get those cheaper).

10 million * 50 = 500,000,000 million USD (therefore, all gold-members have to use the yearly subscription, which is not the case. The 1 or 3 months subscriptions are more expensive, but I will ignore this. And there are different currencies we have to consider. The XBL subscription is 50€ in Europe, that would be 70 USD. So the actual revenue should be significantly bigger than 500 million!)

And there is Xbox Live Arcade. Accordign to VGC-sales, the weekly revenue for Arcade was something like 2 million. That would be another 104,000,000 USD revenue. BUT keep in mind that those sales are ONLY denoted in USD. Again, currencies, mainly from European countries, will push this number up a bit, but I won't include this either.

There is VoD. MS stated that 2/3 of all the paid downloads are due to VoD. We do not have any hard data for this, but it will be easily something like 300,000,000 USD. Especially now since the VoD-offer got so much bigger. This service is available in 10 new countries and there will be 1080p streaming. So 300,000,000 is a very careful guess.

There is DLC. GTA IV, Fable II, Fallout 3, Banjo Kazooie, Guitar Hero, Rockband, Lips, Skate II, Resident Evil 5, Call of Duty WaW... almost every major release in the past 9 months has seen its DLC. GTA IV The Lost and Damned was downloaded more than 1 million times, creatin a revenue bigger than 25 million USD (Again - CURRENCY!) So MY GUESS is, that the revenue for DLC on the Xbox360 last year was like 80 - 100 million USD

There you have it. The yearly revenue on Xbox Live must be crazy.

1,000,000,000.00 USD revenue on and for Xbox Live is easily possible.

^that's nice and all but...who the hell was talking about Microsoft profitabilty? I sure wasn't.... All I can take from this thread is that YOU xbots are biased (duh) and haven't even read past the title and never cared for anything else but trying to point flaws at anything I typed. But whatever, the numbers are there (sales numbers) Microsoft saved the X360's life with the cut, that's far from achieving what a mass-market priced console is suppoused to do.

If the Xbox can't be up YOY over 1 million by the end of year that's no success at all, the console is the cheapest in the market, the oldest, and its at ITS PEAK. This is the best year the 360 will EVER HAVE * you read it first here* bookmark it NOW, and it won't reach 12 millions sales WW in 2009. From this year on is all downhill for it, why? because it couldn't capitalize in its peak year with a $200 price compared to a $400 PS3 and a $250 Wii.

^ You know I read tons of times how 2008 being the third year and all was the PEAK and it WONT GO ANY HIGHER and STUFF. BECAUSE the THIRD YEAR is ALWAYS PEAK, wait? FOURTH YEAR PEAK ZOMG!!!