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leo-j on 02 October 2007
W29 said:
Systems don't fail, it fails when a company quits the console and when you compare the console with others base on sales.

PS3 to Gamecube, you guys are comparing both of these consoles, that had excellent games but are currently in third place due to decisions based on sales. Not one time did Nintendo quit on Gamecube so its not a failure. Its a failure when comparing it to the PS2 and Xbox.

PS3 is still questionable, but I think Sony isn't going to give up. This is the first sha-bang they had done in a long time and it would put them in Sega shoes if they were to give, which would make them little punks and wussies that couldn't hold on and just take the losses. I think Sony is in it and they are going to pull a Nintendo Gamecube-type thing like last gen. And fight there way through to the end. And next-generation they will look at the mistakes and make a console to compete on the same level like Nintendo and Microsoft.

I see it like this as I said before:

Failure is due to a company quiting and when comparing the console to others with sales.

Lets just say this is sony. Dont take them lightly.



 

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DonXHill on 02 October 2007

another part of this no one has mintioned is that nintendo turned a hefty profit on the cube.... which sony is not they are eating there ass on the ps3, that is another factor that the ps3 was losing money when it cost $600, and i know they have not cut production costs that much there is no way in hell to be honest,

now if the pst goes to $399 it is losing lets say 1/3 more than before, givin there is some pretty serious production costs,

1. if it fails at $399 and does not get to the masses and losses more devs we all know where that road goes. Wii and MS fanboys dream

2. it gets to $399 sony bites the bullet and it pays off sales great and gets the 3rd partys and devs it deserves. sony fanboys dream

3. it gets the $399 and in 08 some nice games come out sales descent but its allready out of ideas except getting more devs, stays in 3rd place just under ms since it has  the mass market, (the part nintendo has not taken)<===== more what can happen may not sell 20 million given that a gen in gaming is only about 4-5 years. MS and nintendo will come out with better systems then the PS3 given the new technology in some years not the 10 years sony is hopping,

I hope this is a wake up call to Sony, no pun intended just the alarm clock is Really loud and its time to wake up



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W29 on 02 October 2007

@DonXHill

I agree with choice number 3.



W29 on 02 October 2007

@leo-j

I know thats Sony and they do what they do. I have some faith that they will turn around and get some sales, but beating the 360, they have a long way. FFXIII, MGS4 is not going to slow down 360 sales.



W29 on 02 October 2007

And if Sony was smart they would release the console near Decemeber, or more like Christmas. Since Christmas is what makes hardware sales skyrocket a year.



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super_etecoon on 02 October 2007

The 399 price point will not help. It may help them continue to track with the 360 sales, but it will not turn this generation around for them. As far as their cultural gaming status goes, Sony has seen better days and console races are tied tightly to public perception. Any price cutting that Sony does only provides more fuel to the anti-Sony fire, since they are basically admitting to losing (Not that they lost, that they are losing). Unless Sony can deliver a killer app...which I don't think they have (I'm sorry but Final Fantasy and Metal Gear won't do it) they will continue to lose ground. I say this not because I believe those franchises are weak, but more so because the damage that has been done to the Playstation brand since E3 2006 will take several years and several amazing games to get past.



W29 on 02 October 2007
super_etecoon said:
The 399 price point will not help. It may help them continue to track with the 360 sales, but it will not turn this generation around for them. As far as their cultural gaming status goes, Sony has seen better days and console races are tied tightly to public perception. Any price cutting that Sony does only provides more fuel to the anti-Sony fire, since they are basically admitting to losing (Not that they lost, that they are losing). Unless Sony can deliver a killer app...which I don't think they have (I'm sorry but Final Fantasy and Metal Gear won't do it) they will continue to lose ground. I say this not because I believe those franchises are weak, but more so because the damage that has been done to the Playstation brand since E3 2006 will take several years and several amazing games to get past.

I agree super_etecoon, you hit all the points I was just getting ready to type. Congrats and thanks.



DonXHill on 02 October 2007
W29 said:
super_etecoon said:
The 399 price point will not help. It may help them continue to track with the 360 sales, but it will not turn this generation around for them. As far as their cultural gaming status goes, Sony has seen better days and console races are tied tightly to public perception. Any price cutting that Sony does only provides more fuel to the anti-Sony fire, since they are basically admitting to losing (Not that they lost, that they are losing). Unless Sony can deliver a killer app...which I don't think they have (I'm sorry but Final Fantasy and Metal Gear won't do it) they will continue to lose ground. I say this not because I believe those franchises are weak, but more so because the damage that has been done to the Playstation brand since E3 2006 will take several years and several amazing games to get past.

I agree super_etecoon, you hit all the points I was just getting ready to type. Congrats and thanks.


i third this post,  alot of points i left out but hit the situation dead on



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I Own a WII, 64 and SNES, Most Sega systems

I Own A Xbox and Xbox 360

I am Still MAD at Sony for 3 dead PS2's with Disk Read Error's, And proud Owner of a PSX that Plays Games While Upside Down and a PS3 Slim.

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fkusumot on 02 October 2007
Dodece said:
I will go out on a limb here and say no it will not beat the Game Cube. I know twisted logic nothing with Sony on it can fail to that extent, but honestly I see the console running out of steam long before it sells twenty million units world wide. I also think it will be the last Playstation console we will ever see. Thats all I have to say on the subject.

 That's a real scenario in some world. Once Sony is out of the picture it will also be the last XBox that will ever be seen. I'd guess if Sony leaves Microsoft pulls the plug on the XBox the next day.



I Blame Wii Fit!

Sqrl on 02 October 2007

Oh I had meant to comment on the topic, but forgot (oops >
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