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I think most people (Christians included) don't take this story in a literal sense, but more of a metaphor. Also, the very notion that someone could survive in a whale is rather silly anyway.

It's like Noahs ark, of course a worldwide flood didn't happen. It's just a story that's supposed to offer guidance, and I think only the hardcore believers would say differently.

So in conclusion: no



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highwaystar101 said:
I think most people (Christians included) don't take this story in a literal sense, but more of a metaphor. Also, the very notion that someone could survive in a whale is rather silly anyway.

It's like Noahs ark, of course a worldwide flood didn't happen. It's just a story that's supposed to offer guidance, and I think only the hardcore believers would say differently.

So in conclusion: no

Actually there is a theory that there was a large scale flood thousands of years ago, which is why there are a number of the flood/tidal wave myths around the world from the Atlantis story, to Noah's Ark to myths in India. The theory also implies that civilisation was more advanced then we orginally believed prior to this supposed flood. Not sure if I believe it. Also the Noah's Ark story, like a number of Old Testament stories is actually derived from the Babylonian myth "The Epic of Atrasus" (not sure if I spelt that right, but you get the idea).

A lot of these old stories do have some basis in actual events but a lot gets lost in translation and over the years people forget how they came about. Of course, some are also complete crap :P



There is evidence of a great flood. Some History channel show did a whole hour on it. Now whether it covered the whole earth or not. Anywho, it is silly to not think a world wide flood, could not, has,will happen. Well, atleast huge tidal waves without proper knowledge of what is going on I would be Inclined to think amg world is ending and that it was a vast flood.



Scoobes said:
highwaystar101 said:
I think most people (Christians included) don't take this story in a literal sense, but more of a metaphor. Also, the very notion that someone could survive in a whale is rather silly anyway.

It's like Noahs ark, of course a worldwide flood didn't happen. It's just a story that's supposed to offer guidance, and I think only the hardcore believers would say differently.

So in conclusion: no

Actually there is a theory that there was a large scale flood thousands of years ago, which is why there are a number of the flood/tidal wave myths around the world from the Atlantis story, to Noah's Ark to myths in India. The theory also implies that civilisation was more advanced then we orginally believed prior to this supposed flood. Not sure if I believe it. Also the Noah's Ark story, like a number of Old Testament stories is actually derived from the Babylonian myth "The Epic of Atrasus" (not sure if I spelt that right, but you get the idea).

A lot of these old stories do have some basis in actual events but a lot gets lost in translation and over the years people forget how they came about. Of course, some are also complete crap :P

And two of every species in the world fit into one boat? Besides, surely Noah would just leave the fish and birds?

I don't think much of the Bible is meant to be taken literally. Giant floods, the Red Sea parting, a man surviving inside a whale's body...they're all metaphors. For something.

Of course, I am an Atheist as well, so I am not one to ask.



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dtewi said:
ManusJustus said:
dsister44 said:
No

Did you make this thread just to make fun of my religion?

Thats kind of a cop out.  If I said I believed in something that is opposed to reason, like that Obama would shit gold bricks and that would get the economy back on track, you would make fun of me.  But if I say, but thats my religion, I get a 'its okay to think anything' card.

But you created this thread for the sole purpose of insulting others' beliefs. And, your little "belief" is easily disprovable and Jonah is not. Are you familiar with the Flying Spaghetti Monster?

Well, you could always go get swallowed by a whale



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Nope......not possible...srsly!



Games4Fun said:

There is evidence of a great flood. Some History channel show did a whole hour on it. Now whether it covered the whole earth or not. Anywho, it is silly to not think a world wide flood, could not, has,will happen. Well, atleast huge tidal waves without proper knowledge of what is going on I would be Inclined to think amg world is ending and that it was a vast flood.


I think I saw that history chanel or discovery show, I remember it said there couldve been a flood in the place noah was supposed to live, nothing as big as the mith, that flood would have been taken out of proportion to the scale where it was a worldwide flood in the bible. They also said that even with all the water on earth its imposible to make a worldwide flood, at least the magnitude the story says.

We have to remember that people that wrote this stories didnt know as much about the world.



famousringo said:

From what I've heard, this is a matter of mistranslation, just like how killing poisoners somehow got transformed into killing witches.

There's an old Aramaic idiom that to be preoccupied by a dilemma is to be "in a fish." The modern turn of phrase would be to be "in a pickle."

So at some point, Jonah being "in a large fish" for three days evolved into being swallowed by a whale for three days. It would be like me writing in my journal how I was really in a big pickle being transformed by two thousand years of copying and translation into "And woe betide, famousringo was transformed into an enormous cucumber." Language is a tricky thing.

wasnt there anoter mistranslation about a camel being passed through the eye of a needle, wher the word for camel got confused wth the word for thread or something? idk, i've never read the whole bible  but  its just what i heard.



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trashleg said:
famousringo said:

From what I've heard, this is a matter of mistranslation, just like how killing poisoners somehow got transformed into killing witches.

There's an old Aramaic idiom that to be preoccupied by a dilemma is to be "in a fish." The modern turn of phrase would be to be "in a pickle."

So at some point, Jonah being "in a large fish" for three days evolved into being swallowed by a whale for three days. It would be like me writing in my journal how I was really in a big pickle being transformed by two thousand years of copying and translation into "And woe betide, famousringo was transformed into an enormous cucumber." Language is a tricky thing.

wasnt there anoter mistranslation about a camel being passed through the eye of a needle, wher the word for camel got confused wth the word for thread or something? idk, i've never read the whole bible  but  its just what i heard.

Obnoxiusly rich and selfish people who want to call themselves "Christian" would have you believe that.



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@Kantor:

The whole flood story was cribbed from The Epic of Gilgamesh.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gilgamesh_flood_myth



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