I got a right to be hostile!

"A little bit hostile? He wants to kill you!"

- Self-nominated quote of the day

everything it's on a microscope.
look at sony first party titles.

they all sit nicely over 1-3 million.

but not considered success unless it's a 5+ million seller.

One competing FPS each. PS3 had Resistance, Wii had Red Steel.

Well it's hard to get concrete examples when it's sort of a choice developers make internally. MH3 has been about the only example of a developer saying "well we were going HD, but it's too expensive." The only other obvious one is Rabbids Go Home as I believe the developers of Beyond Good and Evil 2 are now working on that game.

But if you just look at any third-party wii exclusive, thats taking away what could have been a potential HD game. And as third-party wii exclusives have been increasing as of late, I'd say the wii has been taking away more and more HD games.

Hey, I'm not saying my post is justified, just that it is the reason why.

The Wii tried something different -- and instead of falling on its face it has changed the game. If you don't believe that, Project Natal and Sony's unnamed attachment are proof of this.

This tells you how much though the "hardcore games won't sell on the Wii" permeates people's thoughts -- I had no idea that CoD3 on Wii outsold the PS3 version. That alone shows that it made no financial sense for CoD4 not to be on the Wii (it was a technical decision -- which is fine).

There is a lot of hostility toward the Wii. The console is not targeted solely at males 18-34 -- which happens to be the demographic of the gaming "journalists."

So they all look for flops. And they all call for games on the Wii to be on other consoles instead when they don't flop (e.g., No More Heroes and Adam Sessler).

Mike from Morgantown

All of this will change soon when Monster hunter tri launches. The so-called hardcore will have to buy the system if they want to play the game. Simple as that.

1st bolded: Demographics DO matter. MadWorld is being proclaimed as a great game, yet it's not selling. Yet Carnival Games has sold multiple millions of copies. You think demographics don't matter? I would say "it's the casual gamers' fault" because every time a decent third party game comes out, they don't buy it, but as soon as some crappy game like Cooking Mama comes out, they eat it up

2nd bolded: Look at Resident Evil 5, every CoD on the HD consoles, new IPs like Assassin's Creed and Bioshock. Do those "platinum selling" games on the Wii hold a candle, no...the DIMMEST LIGHT to the sales of those HD games?

3rd bolded: Inspite of the big third party games? Being a gamer, those games should matter. The Wii may sell the most third party software, but it isn't the Tekken's, the Final Fantasy's, the Fallout's, the Resident Evil's, the GTA's, etc. type games that give it title. It's the Cooking Mama's, the Carnival Games, the Game Party's, the Raving Rabbids, the High School Musical's, and the Deca Sports type games that are selling (ahem...crappy shovelware).

All in all, I think you're approaching this all wrong. Metal Gear Solid 4 is hailed as one of the best games this generation. If it didn't break 500k, would you blame the game, or the people who own PS3s? Don't act like your confused when the topic of demographics comes to play. In the attempt to gain the "expanded audience", Nintendo has succeeded. They've gotten every grandma, soccer mom, and average Joe to buy a Wii. But how many self proclaimed gamers own that system? Dare I say, not that many? Otherwise, MadWorld would've sold better. Despite getting a sequel, No More Heroes would have sold better. CoD:WaW would have sold in the same area as the HD consoles. Those three games alone cover a broad spectrum of genres of games, so don't try and pull the "niche" card. Because that happens all to often. Assassin's Creed is "niche", but that didn't stop it from selling nearly 8 million copies combined (that was sarcasm btw)

All of this