I know there has been a ton of threads about this game and how it looks forza is better gran turismo and vice versa, bla bla i don't know for sure which is better but the gran turismo 5 trailer on my sony kdl-40xbr4 looked incredible.  I just downloaded the forza e3 video and they didn't even come close.  Gran turismo beat by far hands down.  If you think im crazy and you have both systems go and download both of them and then tell me im crazy.  I think the reason why gran turismo is so much better is because polyphony digital is awesome and also it is in native 1080p with 60fps and the xbox just upscales everything to 1080p no matter if its halo barley over pal native resolution of and old black and white movie.  The source doesn't have to be good it just makes everything 1080p.  Let me know if you think im crazy but those videos off of the each companies online store.

It looks great but I still have a feeling that you are a bit biased ;) Still will Im on the same opinion as you and bealive that it will be better then Forza 3 by any means... T10 are running their mouth a lot lately, but I doubt they will be able to live up to all the hype :|

The video looks great..

The thing is, many people on the net are wondering if the GT5 E3 was even in game footage, or CGI...  E3 Motorstorm relaps..

If forza is better i will like it better i didn't really like the old gt that much

No disrespect for Forza, but GT5 is the only racing game I will be racing against 16 other people in 1080p at 60fps.

what are you talking about both killzone 2 and motorstorm ended being near the quality of the CGI trailers.

seriously even killzone mud makes me drool.

and motostorm HDR it's unrivaled.

This is where the "that shit isn't in-game" comes in. Along with the screenshots.

@ 60fps in cockpit view also may i add.

Gran turismo is going to be pure gaming bliss i just can't wait to play it. It will be pure magic.

If gran turismo 5 is in game than wouldn't that make it better than forza im just saying.