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You Owe me 80p!
 
One item making the interwebs rounds this week was the scandalous revelation that Halo 3 runs at “640p” which isn’t even technically a resolution. However, the interweb detectives did notice that Halo 3’s vertical resolution, when captured from a frame buffer, is indeed 640 pixels. So what gives? Did we short change you 80 pixels?
 
Naturally it’s more complicated than that. In fact, you could argue we gave you 1280 pixels of vertical resolution, since Halo 3 uses not one, but two frame buffers – both of which render at 1152x640 pixels. The reason we chose this slightly unorthodox resolution and this very complex use of two buffers is simple enough to see – lighting. We wanted to preserve as much dynamic range as possible – so we use one for the high dynamic range and one for the low dynamic range values. Both are combined to create the finished on screen image.
 
This ability to display a full range of HDR, combined with our advanced lighting, material and postprocessing engine, gives our scenes, large and small, a compelling, convincing and ultimately “real” feeling, and at a steady and smooth frame rate, which in the end was far more important to us than the ability to display a few extra pixels. Making this decision simpler still is the fact that the 360 scales the
“almost-720p” image effortlessly all the way up to 1080p if you so desire.
 
In fact, if you do a comparison shot between the native 1152x640 image and the scaled 1280x720, it’s practically impossible to discern the difference. We would ignore it entirely were it not for the internet’s propensity for drama where none exists. In fact the reason we haven’t mentioned this before in weekly updates, is the simple fact that it would have distracted conversation away from more important aspects of the game, and given tinfoil hats some new gristle to chew on as they catalogued their toenail clippings.

http://www.bungie.net/News/content.aspx?type=topnews&cid=12821 

Wow so should this settle the dispute over why 720p wasn't used. And to be honest I am a 360 owner and Halo 3 owner, I see no difference at all.



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In fact, if you do a comparison shot between the native 1152x640 image and the scaled 1280x720, it’s practically impossible to discern the difference. We would ignore it entirely were it not for the internet’s propensity for drama where none exists. In fact the reason we haven’t mentioned this before in weekly updates, is the simple fact that it would have distracted conversation away from more important aspects of the game, and given tinfoil hats some new gristle to chew on as they catalogued their toenail clippings.

http://www.bungie.net/News/content.aspx?type=topnews&cid=12821

Wow so should this settle the dispute over why 720p wasn't used. And to be honest I am a 360 owner and Halo 3 owner, I see no difference at all.


 Sony PR needs to take a few pointers from these guys.



so in a round about way... they said yes its 640p... nice... but their duel buffer technique is interesting, I wonder if its really that effective or not.... hmm.



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I have no idea what any of that means... But the game looks pretty.



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people really thought it ran at 640 P
lmao



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I think most people were getting this wrong anyway... some thought 640p was 640x480 (that's 480p), but still 1152x640 is very good.



Difference is very minimal, expecially if you have an SD tv. IN movies though 1080p>480i. Even on an SD tv you see more detail and more colors.

For games there is basicly barely any differnce, unless the graphics are amazing(UT3, gears of war, KZ2 type).



 

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So for this stupid thing they open their mouths but if we ask something about RROD they close it :s.

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(Sorry I thought it was MS who responded). 






konnichiwa said:
So for this stupid thing they open their mouths but if we ask something about RROD they close it :s.
Care to specify which THEY you are referring to?  Bungie isn't Microsoft. 

super_etecoon said:
konnichiwa said:
So for this stupid thing they open their mouths but if we ask something about RROD they close it :s.
Care to specify which THEY you are referring to?  Bungie isn't Microsoft. 

 Crap I didn't edited fast enough.