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Squilliam said:
superchunk said:
Soriku said:
I think you're really underestimating the lineup, Squilly.

How much did Nintendo ship ao far?

Glad you ask.

2008 Jan - 1st week of June.

     Wii sold = ~7,889,378

2008 total sold = ~23,840,570

2009 Jan - 1st week of June.

     Wii sold = ~7,312,910

 

So, the Wii is only down by ~500,000 units as compared to last year. This is surprising since Japan has been so massively slow thus far. Now consider you have Monster Hunter 3 and a new Wii color coming to Japan soon, Wii Fit Plus, New Super Mario Bros, and a good amount of solid 3rd party efforts vs crappy wagglefied PS2 ports.

I'd say it is very much possible for Wii to *ship* >26m this year.

VGChartz Hardware data for the period 05th Apr 2009 to 13th Jun 2009:

 

Console Wii
Total
2,286,063

VGChartz Hardware data for the period 06th Apr 2008 to 14th Jun 2008:

 

Console Wii
Total
4,173,040

Do you see a significant problem with them reaching their sales target?

@ Soriku: Mario games are most popular with Nintendo fans who likely already have the console, unless you think for some reason a 2nd Mario game will have a huge impact? and Wii Fit+ is essentially an expansion to the same title, its nothing new. The only think potentially new is Wii Sports resort, but we will have to wait n see on that one.  

Holy cherry picking mother of god you're good.

First off remember that Super Smash Bros Brawl was only a couple months old and is still selling >300k a month.

Let's see the top new Wii games from that time that had arying degrees of influence on sales:

April 2008
Mario Kart Wii (2.2m)

May 2008
Mario Kart Wii (additional 3m)

June 2008
Mario Kart Wii (additional 700k)
LEGO Indiana Jones (500k Wii is best selling ver)

Now, this is not including anything else like WiiFit and which barely a year old is still selling in the top 5 worldwide every month.

****************

April 2009
Guitar Hero: Metallica (205k)

May 2009
Punch Out!! (206k)

June (granted partial month)
EA Sports Active (240k)

***************

So, your looking at 3 months in 2008 when that year's biggest seller launched that is still in the top 10 every month to a 2.5 month time frame with absolutely NO big games.

You don't see anything wrong with that logic?

Let's recap this in November after NSMBWii, MH3 (japan), WiiSportsResort, WiiFitPlus, etc have all launched.

Again, 26million shipped is in the bank.



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You know if Nintendo ever does a price drop in the next 12 months, they'll do it on the week that Sony releases its purple wand



 

Predictions:Sales of Wii Fit will surpass the combined sales of the Grand Theft Auto franchiseLifetime sales of Wii will surpass the combined sales of the entire Playstation family of consoles by 12/31/2015 Wii hardware sales will surpass the total hardware sales of the PS2 by 12/31/2010 Wii will have 50% marketshare or more by the end of 2008 (I was wrong!!  It was a little over 48% only)Wii will surpass 45 Million in lifetime sales by the end of 2008 (I was wrong!!  Nintendo Financials showed it fell slightly short of 45 million shipped by end of 2008)Wii will surpass 80 Million in lifetime sales by the end of 2009 (I was wrong!! Wii didn't even get to 70 Million)

I'm still waiting for that April price cut Pachter predicted for PS3 to happen... I have no reason to believe him on this



MikeB predicts that the PS3 will sell about 140 million units by the end of 2016 and triple the amount of 360s in the long run.

superchunk said:
Squilliam said:
superchunk said:
Soriku said:
I think you're really underestimating the lineup, Squilly.

How much did Nintendo ship ao far?

Glad you ask.

2008 Jan - 1st week of June.

     Wii sold = ~7,889,378

2008 total sold = ~23,840,570

2009 Jan - 1st week of June.

     Wii sold = ~7,312,910

 

So, the Wii is only down by ~500,000 units as compared to last year. This is surprising since Japan has been so massively slow thus far. Now consider you have Monster Hunter 3 and a new Wii color coming to Japan soon, Wii Fit Plus, New Super Mario Bros, and a good amount of solid 3rd party efforts vs crappy wagglefied PS2 ports.

I'd say it is very much possible for Wii to *ship* >26m this year.

VGChartz Hardware data for the period 05th Apr 2009 to 13th Jun 2009:

 

Console Wii
Total
2,286,063

VGChartz Hardware data for the period 06th Apr 2008 to 14th Jun 2008:

 

Console Wii
Total
4,173,040

Do you see a significant problem with them reaching their sales target?

@ Soriku: Mario games are most popular with Nintendo fans who likely already have the console, unless you think for some reason a 2nd Mario game will have a huge impact? and Wii Fit+ is essentially an expansion to the same title, its nothing new. The only think potentially new is Wii Sports resort, but we will have to wait n see on that one.  

Holy cherry picking mother of god you're good.

First off remember that Super Smash Bros Brawl was only a couple months old and is still selling >300k a month.

Let's see the top new Wii games from that time that had arying degrees of influence on sales:

April 2008
Mario Kart Wii (2.2m)

May 2008
Mario Kart Wii (additional 3m)

June 2008
Mario Kart Wii (additional 700k)
LEGO Indiana Jones (500k Wii is best selling ver)

Now, this is not including anything else like WiiFit and which barely a year old is still selling in the top 5 worldwide every month.

****************

April 2009
Guitar Hero: Metallica (205k)

May 2009
Punch Out!! (206k)

June (granted partial month)
EA Sports Active (240k)

***************

So, your looking at 3 months in 2008 when that year's biggest seller launched that is still in the top 10 every month to a 2.5 month time frame with absolutely NO big games.

You don't see anything wrong with that logic?

Let's recap this in November after NSMBWii, MH3 (japan), WiiSportsResort, WiiFitPlus, etc have all launched.

Again, 26million shipped is in the bank.

Im looking at the first 3 months of the financial year. So the Wii has to outsell its previous years effort by an average of 43,580 per week for the remainder of the 43 weeks left in the financial year. Since I don't think June is going to be at all that friendly to the Wii considering last year it sold 666k in America alone. The Wii sold 1.6M from Jun 15 to Jul 12, but this year it only sold 0.9M Between 10 May and the 6th June. So the Wii could very well fall behind by another 500,000 over the next 4 weeks before WSR and the average advantage over 2008 required to meet the target would rise to ~62K per week.



Tease.

axumblade said:
Pssh. I wish I were an analyst. It has to be the greatest job in the world to just sit around and make shit up.

I have to agree. It is just like statistics. Although, sometimes they are right or close.



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The Wii will probably be sold out all Christmas just like the past two years. I doubt this would help them.



doubtful nintendo isnt gonna drop the price when sales are as good as they are without any (mainstream) quality titles. Sales will pick up a bit when more good games come out.



Long Live SHIO!

Wii will see Wiiterations like DS,DSLite, DSi. Wii will see other colours like Black. Finally Wii will see price adjustments depending on economy. A price adjustment however will be up or down. Wii will never see a pricecut EVER.



Squilliam: On Vgcharts its a commonly accepted practice to twist the bounds of plausibility in order to support your argument or agenda so I think its pretty cool that this gives me the precedent to say whatever I damn well please.

i doubt nintendo will cut the price of wii. they will probably ship black wiis to EU/NA for holiday season and they still have WM+, New Super Mario Bros 4, 3rd party games, Wii Fit and other Wii classics that will move consoles. we will see first pricecut next year probably.



makingmusic476 said:
The Wii will probably be sold out all Christmas just like the past two years. I doubt this would help them.


Ain't gonna happen.

If Nintendo hasn't reduced the production compared to last year, taking the 2.4 millions units or so they are supposed to produce per month they already have over 5 millions units sitting in their warehouses and that number will just keep growing ( ain't gonna sell 2.4 millions Wii in July or August).



PS3-Xbox360 gap : 1.5 millions and going up in PS3 favor !

PS3-Wii gap : 20 millions and going down !