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waron on 15 June 2009
ElRhodeo said:
TheConduit said:

It does make sense though why support better mental care for disturbed people or ban guns that were linked to the crime but ban violent video games based on the fact that they were played by the killer.

Guns are mostly banned already in Germany (or at least much, much harder to get than in the USA). But I guess many American readers wouldn't like that idea either...

And how should it help if the government "support better mental care for disturbed people", if the amok gunman didn't receive psychological treatment before? It's funny how, on the one hand, people want the government to mind it's own business and leave them alone, at the same time they're lamenting that the country is to blame for mentally disturbed people.

but you know instead of banning those games make a law that will stop them from being bought by 12 year old kids cause most of GTA4 owners have less than 16 years old - heck my 8 year old cousin got psp with GTA Liberty City Stories on his First Communion from his parents last year and this year he got 360 on his birthday with Burnout Paradise, Trivial Pursuit(it's a pack in with Premium 360), Skate, Dead Rising and Resident Evil 5 from both his parents and grandparents - yeah 9 year old kid got M rated games from his own parents.



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ElRhodeo on 15 June 2009
waron said:

but you know instead of banning those games make a law that will stop them from being bought by 12 year old kids cause most of GTA4 owners have less than 16 years old - heck my 8 year old cousin got psp with GTA Liberty City Stories on his First Communion from his parents last year and this year he got 360 on his birthday with Burnout Paradise, Trivial Pursuit(it's a pack in with Premium 360), Skate, Dead Rising and Resident Evil 5 from both his parents and grandparents - yeah 9 year old kid got M rated games from his own parents.

Well, exactly that's the problem: Of course there already IS a law that's supposed to keep kids from playing these games. But it doesn't work, as you say. They'll get them anyway, from their parents, friends, brothers, whatever.



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ElRhodeo on 15 June 2009
xbebop said:

Rule #1: Americans care more about their freedom than their safety.

Any good American would rather die than have the government be able to ban simple entertainment like video games.

Rule #2: Germans care more about cleaning the blood off their hands.

That's just plain insulting. "Germans" don't do anything, there are different people in our country just like in yours. If you can't be bothered to inform yourself about different views (and the reasoning behind them) in other countries, don't talk about it. 



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Louie on 15 June 2009

Errmmm wait.

This is just one of several tries of the german states (especially the ones with a christ-democratic government) to ban violent games.

So far every single time they tried to ban violent games the law didn't make it through the parliament because the Social Democrats and the Greens are against it (and I think the liberals, too).

On the other hand this is really getting annoying. You know what our governments solution was to avoid school masacres? The tried to ban paintball. The other suggestions (the ones that actually touch the real weapons) sound more like a bad joke in my opinion.



waron on 15 June 2009
ElRhodeo said:
waron said:

but you know instead of banning those games make a law that will stop them from being bought by 12 year old kids cause most of GTA4 owners have less than 16 years old - heck my 8 year old cousin got psp with GTA Liberty City Stories on his First Communion from his parents last year and this year he got 360 on his birthday with Burnout Paradise, Trivial Pursuit(it's a pack in with Premium 360), Skate, Dead Rising and Resident Evil 5 from both his parents and grandparents - yeah 9 year old kid got M rated games from his own parents.

Well, exactly that's the problem: Of course there already IS a law that's supposed to keep kids from playing these games. But it doesn't work, as you say. They'll get them anyway, from their parents, friends, brothers, whatever.

yeah, but there should be somethin like you know information that those games shouldn't be played by kids. so instead on making stupid laws and losing money on games that will be not sold(every game that is sold brings some VAT money to the budget) they would make some advertisment campaign to inform people - it will be definitely cheaper, more effective and bring some money to the budget. or simply make publishers of M-rated games donate small % of every game sold for charity purposes - problem solved.



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Spankey on 15 June 2009

Freedom costs a buck o' five.



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hunter_alien on 15 June 2009

And people say that Russia is a non-democratic country...

Pathetic popularity gain attempt from the Geramn parliament, and I seriously despise them for doing this. Democracy cant exist when art in any of its formes is banned :|



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thetonestarr on 15 June 2009

Suddenly, Nintendo being "kiddy" isn't such a bad thing. Germans everywhere will be able to have a system with LOTS of good games available.

by my understanding of the types of "violent" games they're banning, games like Zelda and Metroid will still be allowed.



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NunedQ on 15 June 2009
waron said:
ElRhodeo said:
TheConduit said:

It does make sense though why support better mental care for disturbed people or ban guns that were linked to the crime but ban violent video games based on the fact that they were played by the killer.

Guns are mostly banned already in Germany (or at least much, much harder to get than in the USA). But I guess many American readers wouldn't like that idea either...

And how should it help if the government "support better mental care for disturbed people", if the amok gunman didn't receive psychological treatment before? It's funny how, on the one hand, people want the government to mind it's own business and leave them alone, at the same time they're lamenting that the country is to blame for mentally disturbed people.

but you know instead of banning those games make a law that will stop them from being bought by 12 year old kids cause most of GTA4 owners have less than 16 years old - heck my 8 year old cousin got psp with GTA Liberty City Stories on his First Communion from his parents last year and this year he got 360 on his birthday with Burnout Paradise, Trivial Pursuit(it's a pack in with Premium 360), Skate, Dead Rising and Resident Evil 5 from both his parents and grandparents - yeah 9 year old kid got M rated games from his own parents.

well i think resident evil and dead rising are a little too much for a nine year old...



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Bladeforce on 15 June 2009

I can see this kind of law being introduced in the US and others if it works



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