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tedsteriscool said:
Soriku said:
You just said the Wii doesn't appeal to the gamer...no surprise you got attacked. It's the same old argument as "the PS3 has no games" or "the 360 is a RRoD console"

Yeah sorry thats just how I talk. I say "gamer" and "people who play games."

 

My definition of gamer would be yours of "hardcore gamer" I guess. Gosh I hate that term (my reasoning in an earlier post).

...meaning a 13-year-old obsessed with Halo and GTA because OMG OMG U CAN LEIK SHOOT STUFFS OMG OMG OMG SO KEWL OMG OMG OMG OMG?

 

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Khuutra said:
Please don't tell me that you use "gamer" to refer to a lifestyle, as a person who defines themselves by video games

Most people on this website don't do that

I define "gamer" as someone who wants the newest, highest quality games. The people who use gamerankings to prove a point. They devote at least a couple hours a day to games that don't involve exercising or brain training. They like guns, blood, and boobs.



oh dood then PC gamers take the title on that one, console owners don't even stand a chance if that's your definition =).



You contradict yourself twice. If you need to use Gamerankings to prove a point, then you're an extremely shallow gamer, not a devoted one. A real gamer would care more about the content of the reviews, not the number at the end of them. And moreover, Wii Fit and Brain Age are both high quality games. Just because they don't cater to you, doesn't mean they can't be quality products.



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My comp, as shown to the right (click for fullsize pic)

CPU: AMD Phenom II X6 1090T @ 3.2 GHz
Video Card: XFX 1 GB Radeon HD 5870
Memory: 8 GB A-Data DDR3-1600
Motherboard: ASUS M4A89GTD Pro/USB3
Primary Storage: OCZ Vertex 120 GB
Case: Cooler Master HAF-932
OS: Windows 7 Ultimate x64
Extra Storage: WD Caviar Black 640 GB,
WD Caviar Black 750 GB, WD Caviar Black 1 TB
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Logitech X-540 5.1 speakers
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dahuman said:
oh dood then PC gamers take the title on that one, console owners don't even stand a chance if that's your definition =).

Haha yes exactly.

 

Off topic: Crysis is gorgeous. Just got it about a month ago and yowza!



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The next console will have HD, but it won't be a big deal. It's dirt cheap to add HD nowadays.

Microsoft and Sony are the ones now following Nintendo's path, do not expect a traditional Playstation 4 or XBox 720 for them, they both are saying they are going to keep (probably redesign) their current systems and focus them around motion control in the future.



jefforange89 said:
You contradict yourself twice. If you need to use Gamerankings to prove a point, then you're an extremely shallow gamer, not a devoted one. A real gamer would care more about the content of the reviews, not the number at the end of them. And moreover, Wii Fit and Brain Age are both high quality games. Just because they don't cater to you, doesn't mean they can't be quality products.

I solely used the gamerankings reference because of so many deluded people around here saying "taht gamez not AAA!" AKA it was a joke.

 

And Fit/ Age are fun and all but im sure you would agree they don't cater to the gamer (Hardcore gamer to you). I'm not basing this on my personal feelings alone, also those of all the "hardcore" gamers around here.



jefforange89 said:
You contradict yourself twice. If you need to use Gamerankings to prove a point, then you're an extremely shallow gamer, not a devoted one. A real gamer would care more about the content of the reviews, not the number at the end of them. And moreover, Wii Fit and Brain Age are both high quality games. Just because they don't cater to you, doesn't mean they can't be quality products.

he's more an elitist which is fine, he'll eventually come around a few years down the road, I was kinda like that in my late teens, which was, damn that was a long time ago =X.



The days of 5 year console cycles with a massive upgrade in chipset horse power is over. Even MS and Sony basically have acknowledged this. Now MS is saying the 360 will have a lifespan until 2015 and they will refocus everything around Natal.



tedsteriscool said:

...Do you think it will do poorly?

 

My reasoning for why it will perform under par of the Wii is that motion control won't be as much of a selling point since all 3 console manufacturers will have it by that time and people will eventually want to upgrade to HD graphics once they finally purchase a shiny new TV. People who have played Wii on an HDTV even with component cables knows that games look very bland with a lot of jaggies. As HD whores and technophiles become more common with the newer generations of gamers, people will start to demand "cooler" consoles. The Wii has been branded as "kiddy" many times over and this stigma will only get worse over time.

 

Motion control is huge at the moment, and is the reason why many people (including myself...er my mom) bought the Wii in the first place. We are looking for that fresh, new experience that has never been fully implemented in past generations of consoles. By taking away this wow factor, Microsoft and Sony will be able to level the playing field and this will be less of a selling point than it is now for the Wii. Sure the implementation will differ between consoles, but the general idea will be the same.

 

Price is another factor as to why the Wii is doing well. Launched, and still at, $250 makes the Wii the cheapest current gen console still excluding the 360 Arcade ($199). Parents who aren't able to afford big electronics purchases at the moment due to the economic crises will go out shopping for little Jill and Johnny for Christmas or their birthday, see the $300-500 price of the competing systems, and grab the Wii instead simply because its more affordable and is still a game console. I have a feeling Microsoft, and especially Sony, have learned that no console sells very well at a price higher than $299 and will adjust launch prices of their next consoles accordingly to combat this.

 

So if Nintendo sticks to its current path of non-HD, motion control gaming, do you think their next console will stumble out of the gate?

What an...interesting take on reality.

Sony andMicrosoft playing "me too" is not going to steal much thunder from the Wii. Nintendo has more experience with motion controls than either MS or Sony and judging by E3, they may be the only ones to pull it off competently. But it's not just about the motion controls, it's about the software. Wii Sports sold the Wii. I can't imagine what Sony would pull and Microsoft's ideas would be novel at best judging by their presentations.

The Wii successor is going to have HD, Iwata already confirmed this. And Nintendo has been labeled "kiddy" since Sony couldn't come up with anything better in 90's, it hasn't hurt their sales then and it's certainly not hurting them now. I'm sure "HD" and "mature" are one and the same in anti-Nintendoland but in the real world, there is no correlation or logic to support that. There have always been graphics whores, and they are labeled as such because they are always the minority. Graphics does not win a console war, it never has. As long as video games remain as experiences meant to be played, this will remain true.

And you can drop this super macho act, bragging about how you "don't care" about the Wii and how it's for your mom. I'm not sure what gave you the impression that we would be impressed by such a reckless attitude but you can stop overcompensating for down there, it's only hurting your argument.



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