Why are people still debating this topic...
From past history, including a new format with a new playstation is NOTHING new...
PS 1- CD
PS 2 - DVD
PSP - UMD
PS 3 - BlueRay
The decision to include Blue-Ray isn't really a choice for Sony in my opinion. Can you guys imagine now if PS 3 has only DVD drive...? To me, it's just not right...
Playstation is really about setting new standards, not improving the new standards (X360). A Beefed-up PS 2 doesn't bring much new excitement in my opinion.
You don't start seeing benefit of blueray until you get exclusive titles which are developed for the PS3 because you have X360's storage bottleneck. If I remember correctly, one of the supposedly upcoming ID shooter for PS3 and X360, the X360 had to have lower resolution texture.
Link:
http://www.joystiq.com/2008/08/08/carmack-xbox-360-rage-a-little-blurry-key-scenes-same-as-p/
And, you guys do know that Microsoft charges a ridiculous amount for disc royalties right? One-disc solution is not only cheaper for Sony, it's also cheaper for manufacturer, and the game develeoper.
NOt to mention what happens when you lose a disc of a multi-disc game... I just lost my 2nd disc for Xenosaga 3. X_X How i wish it was 1 disk.
Staude said:
The funny thing about this is that it was actually underpriced. Concidering it costed more to make. Atleast that's the logic.
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Your logic merely takes costs into account, while sellers' logic aims to considerate as many market parameters as possible, which after adding and substracting are better denominated under the generic term: value.
Sony oversestimated their products' value while underestimating that of its' competitors, and they ended up with an overpriced machine.
Pricing is relative to value, not costs.
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It was a pretty good choice (sure..it hurt them early on with production costs)...but Blu Ray for now is the HD format that looks like it might overtake DVD in a couple more years (maybe 5).
Gh0st4lifE said:
Your logic merely takes costs into account, while sellers' logic aims to considerate as many market parameters as possible, which after adding and substracting are better denominated under the generic term: value.
Sony oversestimated their products' value while underestimating that of its' competitors, and they ended up with an overpriced machine.
Pricing is relative to value, not costs. |
Yep and it wasn't overpriced compaired to value. Theres a difference between value and what consumers see as value :p
And with a price like the ps3 had, it could have a technological singuality and it'd still not sell more.
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Including bluray in the PS3 made bluray win against HD-DVD, and is driving bluray sales pretty well (never enough for the nay sayers, but I'm pretty sure sony is happy with it).
Bluray is a great addition for gaming too, see uncharted's streaming relulting in no loading.
On the other hand, it was overpriced for the game console market, resulting in pretty bad sales at the original price, and huge loss of money for sony.
Most of the pricing problem is solved now, we should only see the benefits now.
Anyway, I'm really glad I have a bluray player at home to go with my HD TV.
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Playstation is really about setting new standards, not improving the new standards (X360). A Beefed-up PS 2 doesn't bring much new excitement in my opinion.
Haha and Sony is about making the worst PR in history
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BR being a future dead platform, yeah it was a bad choice.
the bad choice really is that it was not needed... it's a gimmick that doubled the price of the console.
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Staude said:
Yep and it wasn't overpriced compaired to value. Theres a difference between value and what consumers see as value :p
And with a price like the ps3 had, it could have a technological singuality and it'd still not sell more. |
What? Think you are slightly divorced from the real world. The makers of a product don't determine the value of a product nor do a few fan boys of that product. The market determines the value. The market spoke and said the value of PS3 was definitely not $600.
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tuoyo said:
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THere is a difference between percieved value and actual value. What i spoke of was the latter.
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