Valve are lazy and crap devs becuse they dont make ps3 games.

M$ money lots of it.simple as that.

It's apparent that the individuals stating Valve is a crap designer are totally biased and have zero business sense.

It's not Valve's fault that Sony created a platform that's counterproductive to develop on, whether intentional or unintentional.

Why would anyone want to work with an inefficient architecture? That's additional cost for the sake of what?

Sony created a console this gen that is too expensive from every aspect. Even the development is resource intensive with a learning curve.

It was smart of Microsoft to create a platform with an architecture so close to the PC. It's idiotic to blame the developers for Sony's poor business model.

Valve's purpose is to provide high quality entertaining gaming experiences...it has decided that the 360 and the PC are the platforms of choice for this goal...which will ultimately result in profits. There is no benefit to Valve catering to the PS3...which is the most expensive to develop for and has the smallest market share.

You know, if they would have just come out and said they cant afford to allocate resources to developing games for the PS3, I would have said fine. But because they said it is too difficult to develop for, sounds lazy. Since they are one of the greatest developers in gaming history and they are saying something is too difficult for them to do, how else am I supposed to think about them?

I actually wonder how much time they have spent on trying, or even looking into it.

LOL @ people saying its bad business to make a ps3 game.

Valve has nothing to base this decision on. MANY 3rd party multiplatform developers have had success on the Ps3 and will continue to support the system because it IS a viable platform. And these devs have gotten over the learning curve. Something valve will never achieve if they continue being pansy's about not trying to learn something they don't know about. Untill theymake an attempt their excuse is bullshit.

They are a PC developers. I can always play their games anyway.

valve already has enough trouble making a decent game for pc/360 that doesnt glitch and bug to much. so lets let them be

You do realize it takes manpower to make the game on the PS3?  Even if you have the engine already working on the PS3 there is still manpower required to keep the game running on the PS3 while making it.

It's not a case of they work for a while to make it work on the PS3 and then BAM suddenly everything works perfectly arcoss everything, there's always manpower involved and more manpower involved the more consoles you release it for.

They simply would rather devote that manpower that would be required to make the PS3 versions to making the 360/PC versions better.

I am sure Valve knows its business model a lot better than you or Sony. Some companies are aware of their strengths and know how to strategically allocate resources on projects that will benefit the company's short-term and long-term objectives. The PS3 is not viable to Valve at the moment. You should deal with it and stop bashing the company.

Knowing when to say "no" is not being lazy. Discipline and self control is a lot better than burning through resources without a clear focus.

Maybe Sony should take note and exercise a little business sense. Hmph...

How can you say they are lazy when they whipped out a multiplayer only shooter which has bested thus far Sony's best efforts in Killzone 2? Its obvious that they value being able to make better games than spending a bunch of time making a prettier game and getting over the architectural differences of the PS3.

Why would they want to continue working on an architecture with vertex and pixel shaders when they can focus on architectures with multithreaded rendering, tessellation, unified shaders which is essentially on the same track as their current and future PC development?

Why would they want to work on an architecture with asynchronous CPUs when their PC/Xbox 360 architectures share the same base of monolithic cores whilst having to explicititly code what the X86 and other CPU cores do automatically?