Thats exactly the point. At least MS can keep their company on a leash. The GT5 devs are starting to seem like they have a huge ego. Admitting they could've already released GT5 already and not doing so is a shitty thing to do. I am far more impressed with what Turn 10 is doing with Forza 3 within a 2 year timeline. I don't think GT5 will own Forza franchise this gen....this seems like it is going to be a close race since Turn 10 made the new engine.

Lol at the 5 yrs development talk.

When did GT4 release?
Early 2005 - Did you really think they STARTED the development right after GT4 came out?

WHAT? Really? Starting the development for almost 2 years before the PS3 came out?

And look what have they released since GT4?
Tourist Trophy - One of the best Moto racing games out there.
GTHD - For free
GT5:P - Demo of GT5 with more content than most other racers.
GT PSP (soon) - Full scale GT game with 800 cars and 35 tracks.

Just because the release interval is around 5 years, it doesn't mean they've been developing it for 5 years.

Why Forza was able to release so much faster?
- The Xbox had a year head start.
- Don't need to build the game engine from the ground up for Forza 3.

You serious?

You think the real world is easy as just say "GO"?

There are a lot more to consider and decision making for a game release.
There might be legal reasons, marketing reasons and shit more you DON'T know.

If you think a company that's in financial trouble don't want to get their money printing franchise out ASAP, you're probably on crack.

The KZ devs were making KZ2 before the PS3 came out to the public. All companies whom Sony own have access to the type of hardware that the company will be using before the development starts. Really...think about how long these companies knew. Give me a break. Forza 3 releases faster because the devs create the games at 2 year intervals consistantly while delivering quality. Forza 3 is a whole new game on a whole new engine, which is far beyond past efforts.

Gran Turismo-1997

Gran Turismo 2-1999 (2 years)

Gran Turismo 3-2001 (2 years between two different systems, so your theory is bullshit. Polyphony had access to the PS2 far before it came out in 2000)

Gran Turismo 4-2005 (4 years in between while on the same console. By 2005 Sony had released the specs of the PS3 to the world, and devs were hard at work making titles for the PS3 already)

Gran Turismo 5-TBA 2009-2010 (Release date of the long awaited franchise)

....Don't give me the Xbox 360 had a year head start bullshit, because the Forza franchise hasn't yet broken the 2 year intervals.

Polyphony already admitted the game could've been released already. You're speculating.

Do you know what much faster it was to model the cars and tracks back then?

For GT3 they need 1 day to model 1 car for a person, for GT5 they need a month to model a car and 6 months to model a track.

There was no evidence that PD started the development for GT5 right after GT4 is out.

Sony announced the spec for the PS3 on E3 2005, the PS3 was still a prototype and the SDK wasn't announced yet.

PD released 4 different products in between GT4 and GT5.

Forza said the graphic engine was rebuilt, graphic engine is only a part of the game engine.

The KZ devs were making KZ2 before the PS3 came out to the public. All companies whom Sony own have access to the type of hardware that the company will be using before the development starts. Really...think about how long these companies knew. Give me a break. Forza 3 releases faster because the devs create the games at 2 year intervals consistantly while delivering quality. Forza 3 is a whole new game on a whole new engine, which is far beyond past efforts.

Gran Turismo-1997

Gran Turismo 2-1999 (2 years)

Gran Turismo 3-2001 (2 years between two different systems, so your theory is bullshit. Polyphony had access to the PS2 far before it came out in 2000)

Gran Turismo 4-2005 (4 years in between while on the same console. By 2005 Sony had released the specs of the PS3 to the world, and devs were hard at work making titles for the PS3 already)

Gran Turismo 5-TBA 2009-2010 (Release date of the long awaited franchise)

....Don't give me the Xbox 360 had a year head start bullshit, because the Forza franchise hasn't yet broken the 2 year intervals.

It doesn't matter how long it took them to make cars and tracks. GT3 and GT4 were on the same system and it took Polyphony four years in between the two games. By your logic GT 1-3 could've been completed within a year, instead of 2 years. You see, Polyphony demoed GT3 the exact year the PS2 came out, which means they were already in development the second GT2 launched or even before it launched on the PSone. If you follow the timelines, you will see that the devs worked on GT5 on the PS3 GT before the PS3 even came out and GT5 as announced at E3 2006 and was shown with demonstration, which means Polyphony was been developing the game since 2005 when the last GT was launched. GT5 was able to be launched by 2007, but Gran Turismo prologue was what you recieved. That was exactly how far they were at that time. The game is 5 years in the making. Stop arguing with me.

Really?? hmmm i must be mistaken then because I tought GG was developing KZ liberation b4 KZ2.....GG probly had a twin who made KZ liberation then.