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outlawauron on 08 June 2009
S.T.A.G.E. said:
outlawauron said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
outlawauron said:
kn said:
One more quick note...

I have done business with large-scale Japanese companies for many years. It is very common for a Japanese company to study their competition in gory detail -- they are not ashamed or concerned about how it may look. They will openly ask brazen questions (that often simply cannot be answered without giving away corporate secrets), observe, and take copious notes. They do this for one reason -- they are sizing up the competition and looking for anything that can give them an advantage. Rest assured that if the Devs came by, they are acknowledging Forza 3 as a genuine competitor and they want to learn more about the product before they release their own just in case they miss something really cool or obvious that would be easy to emulate or implement in GT5's final release.

It may be that PD didn't find anything that concerned them. It may be that they liked some of the features. It may be they just took notes about what they saw so they can discuss it at a later meeting. I guarantee, however, that there was or will be shortly a meeting within PD to discuss what they saw and strategies may or may not be developed or implemented.

Just how do you think the Japanese have beaten so many "inventors" at their own game? It is their methodology. They have taken many technologies invented in other countries, studied them, and then perfected them to the point of destroying the competition... See history. Cars. Cellular Phones. Laser-Read-Disks. The list is very long... In the end, the Japanese have studied the competition and one-upped them. I'm sure PD has the same intentions...

I agree with this so much.

As Americans we tend to get very arrogant, and Turn 10 seems to be taking that to the max.


I'd say they deserve to gloat. They created a superior game in the same amount of time it took Polyphony to create GT5 Prologue with more cars and more tracks. I say these guys mean business.

No they do not. Polyphony has been working on a whole lot more than just one game at a time. This is unlike Turn 10 who only have to make one game at a time. They can dedicate resources to one project which lets them finish faster.

Everyone loves to give these guys so many excuses. Turn 10 meets deadlines as it were.

Deadlines? What deadlines?

I'm not giving anyone any excuse. That's the reason it has taken them so long to develop it. It's the same reason Final Fantasy XIII has taken so long. Square has spread itself far too thin.



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S.T.A.G.E. on 08 June 2009
outlawauron said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
outlawauron said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:
outlawauron said:
kn said:
One more quick note...

I have done business with large-scale Japanese companies for many years. It is very common for a Japanese company to study their competition in gory detail -- they are not ashamed or concerned about how it may look. They will openly ask brazen questions (that often simply cannot be answered without giving away corporate secrets), observe, and take copious notes. They do this for one reason -- they are sizing up the competition and looking for anything that can give them an advantage. Rest assured that if the Devs came by, they are acknowledging Forza 3 as a genuine competitor and they want to learn more about the product before they release their own just in case they miss something really cool or obvious that would be easy to emulate or implement in GT5's final release.

It may be that PD didn't find anything that concerned them. It may be that they liked some of the features. It may be they just took notes about what they saw so they can discuss it at a later meeting. I guarantee, however, that there was or will be shortly a meeting within PD to discuss what they saw and strategies may or may not be developed or implemented.

Just how do you think the Japanese have beaten so many "inventors" at their own game? It is their methodology. They have taken many technologies invented in other countries, studied them, and then perfected them to the point of destroying the competition... See history. Cars. Cellular Phones. Laser-Read-Disks. The list is very long... In the end, the Japanese have studied the competition and one-upped them. I'm sure PD has the same intentions...

I agree with this so much.

As Americans we tend to get very arrogant, and Turn 10 seems to be taking that to the max.


I'd say they deserve to gloat. They created a superior game in the same amount of time it took Polyphony to create GT5 Prologue with more cars and more tracks. I say these guys mean business.

No they do not. Polyphony has been working on a whole lot more than just one game at a time. This is unlike Turn 10 who only have to make one game at a time. They can dedicate resources to one project which lets them finish faster.

Everyone loves to give these guys so many excuses. Turn 10 meets deadlines as it were.

Deadlines? What deadlines?

I'm not giving anyone any excuse. That's the reason it has taken them so long to develop it. It's the same reason Final Fantasy XIII has taken so long. Square has spread itself far too thin.

Actually...FFXIII could've been released last year around christmas to spring 2009 if it wasn't on the 360.



JEDE3 on 08 June 2009

It doesn't take a year and a half to port. No it wouldn't of been done last year. Hell thats pretty obvious by it not launching in Japan



NoCtiS_NoX on 08 June 2009

In other news Mr. Miyamoto also checked out the PSP Go.



PullusPardus on 08 June 2009

take notes you said?




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outlawauron on 08 June 2009
PullusPardus said:
take notes you said?

Goodness. I think that' so funny.



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And snuggle the girls be they short or tall,
Then follow young Mat whenever he calls,
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NoCtiS_NoX on 08 June 2009

 



PullusPardus on 08 June 2009
NoCtiS_NoX said:

 


that guy is my ultimate super hero now...



krimoz911 on 08 June 2009
y0ungK!d said:
krimoz911 said:
If they are so confident in their game then why do they feel the need to talk smack about PD and GT?

The "smack" your talking about is the truth. Forza devs ARE doing much more things than GT people. There are so many things GT people is doing know that Turn 10 has been doing for years. They are trying new things. They only speak the truth. The crazy thing is when Sony devs talk smack, they are praised, but MS devs can't do the same or their the "bad guys."

 

 

You're being a hypocrite , It's wrong when Turn 10 does it and it's wrong when a Sony dev does it, the "smack"  being true or not (being an opinion after all) doesn't make it right, it's unprofessional regardless.

 

Forza may be better than GT and everyone is entitled to their own opinion, but there's no excuse for a developer to make statements like this.

 

 



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richardhutnik on 08 June 2009

Anyone have a barf bucket? I have a use for it. I am tempted to want to hurl in it. I am deciding it would be better to put it on the head of Turn 10, and then wack it with a baseball bat.