I would say that the OP is close, but not quite there yet. The same media that now is praising Natal as the best thing since sliced bread, would be calling it just another peripheral to milk customers with. And, Natal isn't even innovative or anything like that. Just use your brains people, Sony has had Eyetoy for years and how much hype has it received? The difference between Eyetoy and Natal is, that Natal has more sophisticated tech in it and that Eyetoy has games. When you look at the complaints that people have towards Wii, it's the games being "casual". Now the same people hype Natal, that will be useable only the "casual" Eyetoy games. What M$ could really do with Natal, is to throw Surface into the garbage and replace it with Natal.

media show same attention to Wii, are you serious!? gamespot is an example, it's like Wii does not even exist for them (or gaming magazines and this stuff)

it's a matter of opinion what you like, but Natal is so limited, most activities you don't even neeed Natal to do them at all, the only thing you could need Natal for is swordplay and karate or an on-rails shooter let's say but that can happen on WM+ as well, where you cannot use kicks let's say but you can more character and you do more things than just use a sword for example, i can't see how Natal is even close to WM+

but hey, Natal is from MS which has Xbox360 which has great graphics and mature games where WM+ is coming from the kiddy console that has shit graphics and company that is parasite to core gaming and makes un-interesting games even if they are rated 9.7 and sell 10 millions, so it's convinient to hate them, correct? : P

For the most part I agree with that statement! But, then again, to each their own. However, one thing I disagree with is your silly "Natal is so limited" argument. That is simply not true. NATAL is so unlimited it's not even funny, you don't have to work within the confines of a silly waggle remote. You have 3D full body motion sensing, and voice regonition. Two things the Wii mote can't do.  

wow this thread has in alot of hand holders , whinners and dissers, i wish all you experts would wait until natal is released to pass judgement ok? just because you want it to fail as it is not from your respective console maker you are early to jump all over it with these type of threads pleaseeeee.

Isn't that just a couple of people though? I think we're seeing a distortin of scale here.

You can say you heard something mentioned here or there, but that's no response to the mass mentality or media coverage.

We need to use a little common sense.

Bingo!

The only thing we can be certain is that Nintendo will laugh all the way to the bank as they have been doing for the last 3 years and more likely for the next 3-4 years and when MS and Sony release their kind of motion controler, Nintendo will already be prepared to release the "next-Gen" controller/console with way more things the just "motions".

Thats all well and good, but it doesn't negate the fact that people are crying on here because their favorite console did not get all the attention. It's really pathetic if you ask me.

NATAL is very limited. 3D full body motion sensing and voice recognititon are great, but what are you going to do with it? its not my idea of fun to jog in place to run and say "bang, bang" to shoot while playing an fps or a tps. what about platformers, how do you move or jump?. all NATAL is a more sophisticated eye toy. there, i said it.

You just contradicted yourself. With NATAL the possibilities are endless, with Wiimote, well, it can only track your hand, not your full body, so the possibilites are not so endless. I really don't care if you don't want to jump and move around, just don't buy NATAL. I believe that NATAL is going to immerse you more into the game than any other system. Also, let it be known, MS intends to make all games that work with NATAL work with the origional controller as well. I bet if this was a Wii thing, you would be singing it's praises right now.