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vitoaf27 on 10 June 2009
Squilliam said:
infamous8 said:

@jcp

if Ps3 launched at a price point of $300-$350.... No Doubt in my mind, it wouldve obliterated the 360 (Wii still wouldve been a hit for its mass appeal and originality)

Once it was announced to be $600..it sent a lot of "WHAT THE FUCK!!"'s through the world, and people knew it wouldnt sell that good.

 

Once it drops to $300 this holiday season I think Ps3 will really hit its stride and start dominating sales all around the world.

 

Also considering the price drop is right around the time Uncharted 2, God of War III, and Gran Turismo 5 are coming out..... ppl will have good reason to buy one.

No Blu Ray, no HDD, slower than the Xbox 360 so it would cede the hardcore completely to the Xbox 360, less difference with the Wii so PS2 owners would have less reason to pick the PS3 over the Wii etc. Also fewer reasons to upgrade, probably no BC either.


I'm not sure how owners of the slim/$300 PS3 would play any games on it if it didn't have a BR drive. And no HDD is simply proposterous. Have you seen the leaked images of the slim boxart[which look identical to the PSPGo boxart, so they are likely real]? It will have 120 GB. I'm not sure where you get the idea that it'd be slower than the X360.



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De85 on 10 June 2009
CAL4M1TY said:
infamous8 said:
De85 said:
infamous8 said:
It obviously will not go multiplat

Must be because the devs are lazy, right? I mean, isn't that the only reason L4D2 isn't going to be on PS3?

Hopefully now fanboys will realize how ridiculous it sounds using that claim as their default reaction to news of 360 getting exclusives.

LOL! This comment is just laughable.

 

It won't go multiplat because Sony and R* made an agreement on AGENT being exclusive. It has nothing to do with R* not wanting to port it or figure out the 360 hardware. They already made quite a few games on the 360 by the way.

 

Good reasoning though! I can see you're a very intelligent human! heh heh

Which is the same reason L4D2 won't appear on the PS3.

If EA really wanted it, they'd port it over like they did the Orange Box. I agree with what you're saying though infamous8, it's the agreement that will keep this game exclusive. But at the same time, De85 is right in that it's funny (or rather not funny) that when Sony gets an exclusive, it's an agreement out of good will, where as when MS gets an exclusive, it must have been moneyhatted.

Thank you for having the intelligence to understand what I was trying to say l instead of just literally interpreting every word.

For the record, I have no problem with sony moneyhatting games.  If they made a deal with rockstar great for them.  What I do have a problem with is the deluded sony fanboys who think devs work with sony out of the goodness of their hearts, but won't look at MS unless they;re getting paid to.



jcp234 on 10 June 2009
De85 said:
CAL4M1TY said:
infamous8 said:
De85 said:
infamous8 said:
It obviously will not go multiplat

Must be because the devs are lazy, right? I mean, isn't that the only reason L4D2 isn't going to be on PS3?

Hopefully now fanboys will realize how ridiculous it sounds using that claim as their default reaction to news of 360 getting exclusives.

LOL! This comment is just laughable.

 

It won't go multiplat because Sony and R* made an agreement on AGENT being exclusive. It has nothing to do with R* not wanting to port it or figure out the 360 hardware. They already made quite a few games on the 360 by the way.

 

Good reasoning though! I can see you're a very intelligent human! heh heh

Which is the same reason L4D2 won't appear on the PS3.

If EA really wanted it, they'd port it over like they did the Orange Box. I agree with what you're saying though infamous8, it's the agreement that will keep this game exclusive. But at the same time, De85 is right in that it's funny (or rather not funny) that when Sony gets an exclusive, it's an agreement out of good will, where as when MS gets an exclusive, it must have been moneyhatted.

Thank you for having the intelligence to understand what I was trying to say l instead of just literally interpreting every word.

For the record, I have no problem with sony moneyhatting games.  If they made a deal with rockstar great for them.  What I do have a problem with is the deluded sony fanboys who think devs work with sony out of the goodness of their hearts, but won't look at MS unless they;re getting paid to.

Very well said



I'm not a fanboy, I just try to tip the balance in favor of logic and common sense.

Rpruett on 10 June 2009
De85 said:
CAL4M1TY said:
infamous8 said:
De85 said:
infamous8 said:
It obviously will not go multiplat

Must be because the devs are lazy, right? I mean, isn't that the only reason L4D2 isn't going to be on PS3?

Hopefully now fanboys will realize how ridiculous it sounds using that claim as their default reaction to news of 360 getting exclusives.

LOL! This comment is just laughable.

 

It won't go multiplat because Sony and R* made an agreement on AGENT being exclusive. It has nothing to do with R* not wanting to port it or figure out the 360 hardware. They already made quite a few games on the 360 by the way.

 

Good reasoning though! I can see you're a very intelligent human! heh heh

Which is the same reason L4D2 won't appear on the PS3.

If EA really wanted it, they'd port it over like they did the Orange Box. I agree with what you're saying though infamous8, it's the agreement that will keep this game exclusive. But at the same time, De85 is right in that it's funny (or rather not funny) that when Sony gets an exclusive, it's an agreement out of good will, where as when MS gets an exclusive, it must have been moneyhatted.

Thank you for having the intelligence to understand what I was trying to say l instead of just literally interpreting every word.

For the record, I have no problem with sony moneyhatting games.  If they made a deal with rockstar great for them.  What I do have a problem with is the deluded sony fanboys who think devs work with sony out of the goodness of their hearts, but won't look at MS unless they;re getting paid to.

One could certainly argue that the PS3 has more untapped potential and ability for expansion in many ways over the 360 however and that some companies/developers interested in more of a challenge could look at the PS3 as a system to really push this untapped potential and make something spectacular or out of the ordinary.

I easily could see companies making games for the PS3 out of the goodness of their hearts because untapping the potential of the PS3 could be a very rewarding nugget for them.  Where as the 360 is pretty much restricted at this point.  The inclusion of Blu-Ray opens avenues and doors for developers that limit the 360.

In many ways, I find it similar to the PS2 / XBOX of last generation.  I'm not so sure Microsoft money hatted Bioware or Bethesda to make games for the Xbox as much as these companies wanted to test out their game on a console with a little more untapped  or under utilized potential.



Darth Tigris on 10 June 2009
Rpruett said:
De85 said:
CAL4M1TY said:
infamous8 said:
De85 said:
infamous8 said:
It obviously will not go multiplat

Must be because the devs are lazy, right? I mean, isn't that the only reason L4D2 isn't going to be on PS3?

Hopefully now fanboys will realize how ridiculous it sounds using that claim as their default reaction to news of 360 getting exclusives.

LOL! This comment is just laughable.

 

It won't go multiplat because Sony and R* made an agreement on AGENT being exclusive. It has nothing to do with R* not wanting to port it or figure out the 360 hardware. They already made quite a few games on the 360 by the way.

 

Good reasoning though! I can see you're a very intelligent human! heh heh

Which is the same reason L4D2 won't appear on the PS3.

If EA really wanted it, they'd port it over like they did the Orange Box. I agree with what you're saying though infamous8, it's the agreement that will keep this game exclusive. But at the same time, De85 is right in that it's funny (or rather not funny) that when Sony gets an exclusive, it's an agreement out of good will, where as when MS gets an exclusive, it must have been moneyhatted.

Thank you for having the intelligence to understand what I was trying to say l instead of just literally interpreting every word.

For the record, I have no problem with sony moneyhatting games.  If they made a deal with rockstar great for them.  What I do have a problem with is the deluded sony fanboys who think devs work with sony out of the goodness of their hearts, but won't look at MS unless they;re getting paid to.

One could certainly argue that the PS3 has more untapped potential and ability for expansion in many ways over the 360 however and that some companies/developers interested in more of a challenge could look at the PS3 as a system to really push this untapped potential and make something spectacular or out of the ordinary.

I easily could see companies making games for the PS3 out of the goodness of their hearts because untapping the potential of the PS3 could be a very rewarding nugget for them.  Where as the 360 is pretty much restricted at this point.  The inclusion of Blu-Ray opens avenues and doors for developers that limit the 360.

In many ways, I find it similar to the PS2 / XBOX of last generation.  I'm not so sure Microsoft money hatted Bioware or Bethesda to make games for the Xbox as much as these companies wanted to test out their game on a console with a little more untapped  or under utilized potential.

Or Bioware and Bethseda were PC devs that had PC games that were much easier to port over to the Xbox.

Beware.  You're close to doing the exact thing that De85 pointed out.  Both the 360 AND PS3 have untapped potential.  Heck, they are getting more out of the Wii graphically than we thought they'd be able to.  Blu Ray gives the PS3 an advantage, but don't overestimate it.  There are still bottlenecks in its architecture that the 360 doesn't have and vice versa.



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De85 on 10 June 2009

@Rpruett

I pity the developers who try to pay their employee's salaries with the "rewarding nugget of untapped potential."

Money pays the bills, and there was money in this deal for Rockstar. It may not have been an outright check, but moneyhatting can take on many disguises like waived licensing fees, paid marketing campaigns, etc...

Otherwise 30M+ Xboxes are hard to say no to when you're launching a new franchise and need every sale you can get.



PS3beats360 on 11 June 2009

PS3 has a lot more exclusive games coming out in the future than XBox 360. Game developers will use the PS3 for games that require Blu-Ray disc to store the whole game on. Spreading games onto multiple DVD discs and having to pay MS royalties will put some developers off of making 360 games requiring more than one DVD disc.

PS3 has already proven it has the graphical edge over the XBox 360 with its exclusives namely: Killzone 2, Uncharted, MGS 4, God of War 3 and Grant Turismo 5, etc. PS3 Blu-Ray disc format is building up market share significantly on DVDs. Blu-Ray disc stores 7 to 8 times more data on a single disc than a DVD disc.



infamous8 on 01 July 2009
jcp234 said:
infamous8 said:

@jcp

if Ps3 launched at a price point of $300-$350.... No Doubt in my mind, it wouldve obliterated the 360 (Wii still wouldve been a hit for its mass appeal and originality)

Once it was announced to be $600..it sent a lot of "WHAT THE FUCK!!"'s through the world, and people knew it wouldnt sell that good.

 

Once it drops to $300 this holiday season I think Ps3 will really hit its stride and start dominating sales all around the world.

 

Also considering the price drop is right around the time Uncharted 2, God of War III, and Gran Turismo 5 are coming out..... ppl will have good reason to buy one.

I agree with everything you communicated in this post. For that price at launch, I would have purchased a PS3 immediately!

 

But I am pretty sure it would have been sold out everywhere for quite some time.

yeah, it would probably be neck and neck with Wii right now.



"I don't have time to play video games anymore, but if I did, I would definitely choose the PlayStation 3 instead of the 360" - President Barack Obama

Zizzla_Rachet on 01 July 2009

I can't wait to see how the Eye toy will work with this game



 



djkoz78n on 27 September 2009

I think that Rockstar is trying to make up for their greed by saying oh but guys we are making an Exclusive game for the PS3 that won't be exclusive depending on how well or terrible it does. So Please buy our game we really do like the PS3. We can only make Agent on a PS3. Except for if it does good the we will all the sudden be able to make it for the 360. Or if its a complete piece of Sh*t then we'll need to recoup our loses b/c we like so many other developers HATE the PS3 but now that it's starting to sell and the 50 million we got from M$ wasn't enough. Remember Ubisofts Haze? Garbage PS3 exclusive. Not to mention who the F*** knows if Agent will even be a good game. We haven't seen sh*t from it first off. Secondly anyone remember State of Emergency. Horrible game. For all we know Rockstar is just taking a reskinning GTA4 with spies. Plus all that Exclusive DLC is taking up Rockstar's time to even focus on Agent to make it look or play good or even original. I mean Red Dead Redemption is basically GTA4 in the old west right? So Agent will probably be GTA4 in the 70's with spies. Plus Rockstar doesn't have the best track record for superb games just the GTA series. I mean almost everyone of there games plays exactly the same. Like Bully it was fun but it was just a reskinned GTA game just like PS3's so called going multiplatform exclusive. My opinion for all PS3 owners who are tired of getting the raw end of the deal by developers is to mark my words and see that Agent will basically be a GTA clone. And if you're tired of feeling screwed over constantly then don't buy their games. I mean I'm sure the DLC is a timed exclusive but who the F*** is going to be playing GTA4 a year from now?