I say flamebait when something is posted to get negative response.

You have an Amiga in your Ring!? Whatever floats your boat.

TOUCHE as they say for your earlier posts towards me. :)

What I didn't understand was why you changed it, and whether you really did.

The period was meant to be a question mark.

I can't recall the last time i posted the words flamebait. This thread wasn't posted to have a "convo" about.  Its to piss people off and cause flame wars.

Pretty much!

I'm reposting this because it got overlooked on the first page......and it's exactly what the thread has turned into:

I guess you haven't been here very long. If you were, you'd know that everyone on VGC are experts on the consoles and know when a system is maxed out (without even developing for the system), and that developers don't know shit (who have been developing for the consoles for years). Add in a little bit of "When was the last time they made a good game?" and then NO developer has any credibility, because the quality of a game is subjective. Add a dash of "I think" and "there's no way they're right", then VGC members actually become the developers themselves! Which is even funnier because these members believe that developers don't know shit. The result: The same posting members DON'T KNOW SHIT!!

So of course they don't agree

I don't know how old you are, but it's a well known fact devs use that line "omgzor we maxx0red teh machinez" to hype their games. They've been using claims like that since several generations ago in order to buzz their games. That's a way to take advantadge of not-so knowleadgeable people.

As an example, there's been devs claiming they've maxed the 360 as early as 2007.

You'll have to try with something else =/

I second that!

Splinter Cell Conviction > EA

Lost Planet 2 > EA

CarckDown 2 > EA

Forza 3 > EA

Cliff B's new game > EA

MGS:Rising> EA

Splinter Cell Conviction 100% real time!

Uncharted series = OWNED!

I doubt EA will ever come close to maxing out either console.