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Squilliam on 05 June 2009

Its false, for both the CPU and GPU.

Forza 3 has 10* the polygons and 4* the texture resolution along with other tweaks compared to Forza 2. Thats with just two years of progress, using the tessellation engine of the Xbox 360 GPU. Once developers get a handle on this technology, the Xbox 360 of tomorrow will put the Xbox 360 of today to shame. Epic themselves may very well be hard at work mastering this technology right now for Directx11 so when we see their next Gears of War iteration prepare to be blown away.

As for the CPU, it was released back when multi-core programming was a rarity. Pretty much all development was done with a single core CPU in mind and the programming model is still catching up. The Xbox 360 has 6 threads when most software designed today can only adequately handle 2. Just balancing the workload so that the two threads on a single core don't contest for the same resources is an artform in itself, let alone creating a game engine which can use all 6.



Tease.

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craighopkins on 05 June 2009

Forza 3 does look amazing



Stan85 on 05 June 2009
Squilliam said:

Its false, for both the CPU and GPU.

Forza 3 has 10* the polygons and 4* the texture resolution along with other tweaks compared to Forza 2. Thats with just two years of progress, using the tessellation engine of the Xbox 360 GPU. Once developers get a handle on this technology, the Xbox 360 of tomorrow will put the Xbox 360 of today to shame. Epic themselves may very well be hard at work mastering this technology right now for Directx11 so when we see their next Gears of War iteration prepare to be blown away.

As for the CPU, it was released back when multi-core programming was a rarity. Pretty much all development was done with a single core CPU in mind and the programming model is still catching up. The Xbox 360 has 6 threads when most software designed today can only adequately handle 2. Just balancing the workload so that the two threads on a single core don't contest for the same resources is an artform in itself, let alone creating a game engine which can use all 6.

Thank you. Add Natal in the mix,and you have a winner

I`m surprised my cheap 360 has so much power.



selnor on 05 June 2009
wholikeswood said:
mrstickball said:
Imperial said:

 

I'm one of those people who expect exclusives to look better than multiplatforms because of the obvious technical limitations the developers face when doing either , you of all people should know that , it counts for both consoles.

We can argue endlessly on particular games but if we look at the bigger picture , the PS3 wins cummilativley , always setting the new standard. You obviously don't realise this because of your blind dedication to the 360.

Despite my strong affiliation with the playstation brand , I still know what's what.

...Says the guy with the Sony Defense Force signature.

You know, you'd hope that a much more expensive system would have a slight edge on graphical capabilities.

Really, would you? This seems a nonsense statement to me - it could justify its extra cost with something else, like a more advanced media storage for example (in this case, Blu-ray).

@ Selnor: Take the fanboy goggles off, buddy. If you think Uncharted 2 looked inferior to Alan Wake or Assassin's Creed, then you're talking nonsense. Simple as that.

 


I'm sorry, but I definately dont see U2 better than Alan Wake. @ times Alan Wake looked like CGI, now I never thought that of U2 at all. U2 always looked like a game. Alan Wake didnt.



phnguyen89 on 05 June 2009
Stan85 said:
PS3 Fananza said:
lol this is funny. I agree with ea. 360 is maxed out and ps3 isn't. PS3 is future proof.


Has the 360 started to use the 2`nd core of it`s 3 cores? What game on the market uses the second core?

I know that each 360 core has 2 threads,so 6 in total,while ps3 has 7-8 working ones(for games).

And how can they max out the GPU when they haven`t maxed out the CPU? 

REEALY(/insert sarcasm).  Would you mind telling where you go this info?



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Stan85 on 05 June 2009
phnguyen89 said:
Stan85 said:
PS3 Fananza said:
lol this is funny. I agree with ea. 360 is maxed out and ps3 isn't. PS3 is future proof.


Has the 360 started to use the 2`nd core of it`s 3 cores? What game on the market uses the second core?

I know that each 360 core has 2 threads,so 6 in total,while ps3 has 7-8 working ones(for games).

And how can they max out the GPU when they haven`t maxed out the CPU? 

REEALY(/insert sarcasm).  Would you mind telling where you go this info?


Really? Do you want to do this? ok...

The CELL has 8 threads-> 1 is disabled/not working,1 is for the OS,while the other 6 are for games,just like 360`s CPU.

The problem is that the CELL is a nightmare do develop for (the developers said this time and time again).

The ps3`s GPU is a 7800 GTX clone,nothing to cheer about,with half the triangle/second compared to 360`s GPU (275 VS 500+).

Last but not least,the memory...2x256 VS 512. You can cleary see the unified architecture advantage,every developer said this.

So really,do you want to do this? Google " PS3 hardware slow and broken" and take a look yourself.

@Selnor...I`m actually starting to like Alan Wake...reminds me of Twin Peaks. It`s a different breed than Gears,Halo and NG2.



Nightmare24 on 05 June 2009
rckrz6 said:
flame bait.. why do you post this

i agree 360 is always on a roll



MikeB on 05 June 2009

@ nightsurge

Nothing more an nothing less was stated in the posting for which I was banned by him.


Can I ask why all your "funcomputing.nl", "funcomputing.eu", etc. point to the Sony PlayStation page? That sure seems like you're advertising, AKA trying to sell PS3s....


I thought it would be funny seeing people low on IQ overreact.

I recently changed this, I use the domain just for receiving emails.



Naughty Dog: "At Naughty Dog, we're pretty sure we should be able to see leaps between games on the PS3 that are even bigger than they were on the PS2."

PS3 vs 360 sales

Ogrekiller on 05 June 2009
MikeB said:
@ nightsurge

Nothing more an nothing less was stated in the posting for which I was banned by him.


Can I ask why all your "funcomputing.nl", "funcomputing.eu", etc. point to the Sony PlayStation page? That sure seems like you're advertising, AKA trying to sell PS3s....


I thought it would be funny seeing people low on IQ overreact.

I recently changed this, I use the domain just for receiving emails.

.

 



MikeB on 05 June 2009

@ Ogrekiller

Oh really.

Someone click on the link on his sig.


What you don't understand? I recently change it to redirecting to the official Playstation website, before this I had it linking to my former AmigaRing website.



Naughty Dog: "At Naughty Dog, we're pretty sure we should be able to see leaps between games on the PS3 that are even bigger than they were on the PS2."

PS3 vs 360 sales