Metroid + team ninja = suprise org***

Plus the Wii could become the very best console ever for mario games!

Super mario galaxy 1 & 2, new super mario bros and super paper mario > mario bros 1, 2 &3 ?

Lame.

Sorry, I was expecting more.

- Galaxy 2 is a no-brainer - basically a level pack.
- WiiFit+ is WiiFit 1.1
- Mario Bros Wii looked lame IMO - I'll get it, but it looks like someone rushed for a couple of weeks to slap it together. The Wii is capable (and deserves) so much more.

Pros:
- Metroid, esp Team Ninja was unexpected. I actually thought it looked cooler until I knew it was Metroid, but hey.
- Galaxy II - can't go wrong with more Galaxy (but not this year)
- WS:R looked cool

Cons:
- No Retro - again?
- No Zelda
- No Pikmin
- No new franchises
- No new hardware (sorry, the vitality thing does *not* count IMO)
- No Miyamoto
- Really don't like Cammie (why is she always scowling?)
- No surprises (apart from Metroid)
- No network/online functionality, nothing new there
- No slideshows of game compilations
- nothing outstanding for the DSi
- No surprise partnerships with Capcom, Konami, SQE, ...
- WS:R didn't look as cool as it could have

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Looks to me, like Nintendo are playing it safe. They have this year sown up, and with the three potentially biggest Xmas sellers: WiiFit+, WiiSports, Wii MarioBros

...there is no need for them to do anything different.

I think they are also struggling to adapt their msg, now that MS & Sony have motion controllers - and since the marketing department upheaval in NOA.

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In fact, I think this years E3 was *much worse* than last years from them. I sense a little desperation creeping in :P

shams... wtf? worse than last year???

I was surprised to see SMG2... In the IGN podcast thread, it was already suspected NSMB for Wii so I expected that and thought that would be the only Mario game coming...

Golden Sun 3 was a big surprise as well as the Metroid Gaiden game

The biggest surprise though is that no Miyamoto on stage at all!

what are you guys talking about? i didn't expect this much! i mean this is a super mario bros game were talking about here! AND mario galaxy 2, a sequel to what i consider my personal best game ever AND is literally the reason i bought a wii.

Imagine buying a console for one game and then i turns out you're getting the sequel to that game too! best thing EVA! also a surprise metroid was shown. and then on the DS there was a bunch of great stuff too :)

this was beyond awsome for me. i was expecting either a 2D mario OR a sequel to mario galaxy but not BOTH!!!! for me, this E3 was da best eva! this is also the first time i watch it live which was awsome!

Surprise is damn right!

Yeah. I'm not talking lineup for the year - talking "The E3 conference".

Last year, we got WM+ & WS:R. Animal Crossing, WiiMusic.

New hardware/controller, new IPs...

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Replace WM+ with the vitality meter.

Replace new IPs with... no new IPs?

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Don't get me wrong - I'm stoked that a new Galaxy is coming.

But Galaxy, WiiMarioBros, Metroid, WiiFit+ ... all basically semi-sequels/re-releases.

Obviously the Metroid looks interesting - but I need to see more before getting excited.

Golden Sun DS is probably the best announcement for me.

what u guys think? Should nintendo be worried about MS and Sony Toys?

I would loved a zelda wii but I enjoyed it a lot :D

@ shams, what new IP did we get last year?


this year we got a new IP RPG. spawn smasher is also a new IP

One word --

Mario.

Before SMG2 is just written off as a "level expansion pack" I would ask you to consider that EAD Tokyo will likely get another year to develop this at least with NSMB Wii probably selling for a long time to come. 

So they have a loooooooooooooooot of time to polish the hell out of that and really make it a true sequel to Galaxy thanks to NSMB Wii. Just something to consider.