^sorry, I hadn't realized that the trend had changed back. It was outselling for a while.

Anyhow, the point still stands. ~50% of the market likes FPS RPG and fighters.

This seems to be their consistent message going into E3, that they need compelling software to light the world aflame. Let's hope that leads to something truly spectacular.

I think you are trying to reach too far with your theory.

It would be easier to claim that ~50% of market likes HD graphics since some of the most popular games on PS360 are not even in those three genres. In such case, there is no way for Wii to make games to appeal those users.

It would also be easier to appeal to consumers who have no console systems than consumer with either PS3 or 360 since it is a much larger population than the ~53 millions users that own a HD console.

You are entitled to your opinion but at least I confirmed it wouldn't make sense to me.

High Voltage didn't make shovelware. They made games on time and on budget, but that's still not shovelware. The term is far more narrower than it's used nowadays.

And High Voltage did it to pay their dues, not that they somehow rose out of shovelware.

I dunno, it's debatable which market would be easier to reach, the non VG owners or HD owners. It's not all about graphics.

I'm doubtful how easy it would be to appeal to people who don't play video games with games that appeal to gamers.

Well, they are doing that right now, with the Wii, and it is definitely working...

^they are appealing to non gamers with RPGs fighters and FPSes?

I'm not sure that is true ego.

since this point is crucial to both of your ideas I think you should somehow show that those genres do well in attracting non-gamers rather than gamers. Otherwise I am going to asume that you agree with me.

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It is only crucial to your idea, not anyone else's, since it was your assumption.

For any console to be successful in the long term, of course it wants to have games in all genre since it would make the console appealing to the most broad audience. However, when Reggie said "In order to achieve high levels of sales of hardware, we need all genres in the market", somehow it becomes we want to make more RPG, fighter, and FPS games for PS360 owner. The leap of logic is beyond me.

Also, there are 186 millions gamers in the previously generation (PS2: 140+, Xbox: 24, Gamecube: 22) and there are about 103 millions of console sold this gen. Assuming all console this gen is sold to a console owner from last gen, that's at least 73 millions gamer from previous gens for Wii to target. This is already larger than the PS360 user base and does not include any potential customers who never bought a console last gen. Making games appealing to PS360 would be last thing in Nintendo's book for the success of Wii.

thepr00f - the videogame world doesn't revolve around RPG's and FPS. I have gamers friends that don't like either genre. Does that makes them non-gamers?

and also, according to you what is a gamer?somebody that plays those genres? oh fergadsakes Don't be so narrowminded. Wii is making games that appeal to many kind of gamers not only the otaku-nerd ones. Open your mind a little. Your tastes=/=reality.

You are challenging what I first said and using that currently debated idea as a counter-example.It's up to you to actually challenge the idea if that's what you want to do. By disproving your counterexample my idea is strengthened. Similarly it's how theories work. You pose an idea and try to disprove it. If it cannot be disproved it is therefore proved, even if no evidence exists to actually prove it. It's a circular logic I'll agree, but it's proven time and time again on a variety of fields.

To reiterate; The leap you are talking about is simply the genres that aren't really shown on the wii. Why would he be referring to things that are plentiful on the system like platformers, 3rd person, shooters, mini games, racers? The "leap of logic" is simply deduction watson.

As for your logic, I'm curious to know why you think each console sold went to only one person, and why it's beyond anyone to have switched to to ds or psp furthermore.

@Bob

Sometimes I really wonder about you. I don't think anyone said the world revolved around rpgs and fpses. Reggie was saying that 3rd parties need to step up and deliver, what I believe to be, these genres. Without good installments in these genres it ignores the audiences that are attracted by them. Fire Emblem is a very good example. While not revolutionary, it has strong appeal that make potential buyers think twice about going with a different console.

"and also, according to you what is a gamer?somebody that plays those genres? oh fergadsakes Don't be so narrowminded. Wii is making games that appeal to many kind of gamers not only the otaku-nerd ones. Open your mind a little. Your tastes=/=reality."

I think you are referring to what I say as non-gamers. Please try to be professional. I'm only talking about traditional ideas. A "non-gamer" would be someone who bought the wii for something like wii-fit or something similar. It is only because there is really no other word to describe this demographic that I used non-gamer. I don't know what you would want me to call them. The only inference here is that they are not the type to be drawn by so-called traditional gaming.