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MaxwellGT2000 said:
FKNetwork said:
MaxwellGT2000 said:
FKNetwork said:
Viper1 said:
FKNetwork said:

Second game with voice chat on Wii? WOW!!!! 360 games have had this standard feature from day one,

And you say amazing controls? with the wii waddle? give me a break, I'd much rather a proper controller any day of the week over that excuse of a "control", and you say cool online modes? we have had this with cod4 and halo 3 for years now,

Conduit is not brining anything new to the table, just lame attempts at things already done a LOT LOT better on the HD twins,

Ladies and gentlemen, this is known as consumer ego embellishment.  A direct attempt to degrade a competing product to assuage the building resentment of their product of choice.

Insecure of their own gaming product, they resort to insults, affronts, immaturity, childish monikers, etc...as a means to build self esteem and confidence when it's naturally lacking.

Far from it actually! I'm more than confident in the 360,

Call me a fanboy all you want but I do own a Wii and stand by ALL my comments, the wii is for games like Wii Sports that other consoles can't really offer due to the wiimote, FPS's on the Wii just don't work (cod sales on wii anyone?) because the HD twins and PC offer MUCH more, same as driving games (mario kart is ok though), they just don't work very well on the Wii,

 

I'm not slagging the Wii off, I'm just saying that some games work VERY well on Wii but others clearly do not, leave FPS to the HD twins and PC as the Wii will never offer anything as good due to the poor controls and graphics the wii offers, people buy Wii for wii sports and "my horse and me", not "conduit" and "cod" lol.

Oh, forgot to say, I'm buying "EA Active" for my girlfriend later!

I highly doubt you've ever played an FPS on Wii.  Just because you have a Wii doesn't mean you automatically win a debate and can act all superior to others, many of them own multiple consoles too...

This isn't about "winning" lol, I'm just saying my view just like you are doing, right or wrong we are all entitled to it!

And yes, I have played a couple of FPS on Wii, this is what put me off getting anymore FPS on Wii, I also enjoyed house of the dead: overkill even though it was a rails shooter and not a FPS, quite fun!

By chance which were those FPS games?

COD: World At War (played it at my brother in laws house) and Metroid Prime 3



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FKNetwork said:
MaxwellGT2000 said:
FKNetwork said:
MaxwellGT2000 said:

I highly doubt you've ever played an FPS on Wii.  Just because you have a Wii doesn't mean you automatically win a debate and can act all superior to others, many of them own multiple consoles too...

This isn't about "winning" lol, I'm just saying my view just like you are doing, right or wrong we are all entitled to it!

And yes, I have played a couple of FPS on Wii, this is what put me off getting anymore FPS on Wii, I also enjoyed house of the dead: overkill even though it was a rails shooter and not a FPS, quite fun!

By chance which were those FPS games?

COD: World At War (played it at my brother in laws house) and Metroid Prime 3

The fact that you said "And you say amazing controls? with the wii waddle? give me a break, I'd much rather a proper controller any day of the week over that excuse of a "control"" astounds me and makes me think either A you didn't actually play those games, B you didn't adjust anything, or C you didn't sit there long enough to adjust as everyone takes a bit to adjust to it but I've yet to meet a person that has legitimately play those games and say dual analog is better for FPS.



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MaxwellGT2000 said:

The fact that you said "And you say amazing controls? with the wii waddle? give me a break, I'd much rather a proper controller any day of the week over that excuse of a "control"" astounds me and makes me think either A you didn't actually play those games, B you didn't adjust anything, or C you didn't sit there long enough to adjust as everyone takes a bit to adjust to it but I've yet to meet a person that has legitimately play those games and say dual analog is better for FPS.

The thing with World At War is that I have played the 360 version every day since it was released so prefer that version in every way possible, the Wii version wa terrible in my view (again, just my view), not even a zombie mode in the wii version!?!?,

And MP:3, I just wasn't impressed with it at all, all the hype about the "superb" controls spoiled it for me, nothing great, just average to me and not something I would want to play again,

 

But as I said before, to me and many others the Wii is NOT about FPS's or Driving games, it is more about the party ype games that make use of the Wiimote in a good way, bowling for example is cool, Wii Fit is cool, EA Active looks cool, see what i'm saying?

 



FKNetwork said:
MaxwellGT2000 said:

The fact that you said "And you say amazing controls? with the wii waddle? give me a break, I'd much rather a proper controller any day of the week over that excuse of a "control"" astounds me and makes me think either A you didn't actually play those games, B you didn't adjust anything, or C you didn't sit there long enough to adjust as everyone takes a bit to adjust to it but I've yet to meet a person that has legitimately play those games and say dual analog is better for FPS.

The thing with World At War is that I have played the 360 version every day since it was released so prefer that version in every way possible, the Wii version wa terrible in my view (again, just my view), not even a zombie mode in the wii version!?!?,

And MP:3, I just wasn't impressed with it at all, all the hype about the "superb" controls spoiled it for me, nothing great, just average to me and not something I would want to play again,

 

But as I said before, to me and many others the Wii is NOT about FPS's or Driving games, it is more about the party ype games that make use of the Wiimote in a good way, bowling for example is cool, Wii Fit is cool, EA Active looks cool, see what i'm saying?

 

Not really since there are many that would disagree, there are many uses for the Wii remote and FPS is one of the best examples of how a genre can be improved on the consoles because of the controller.  It flat out is more accurate and faster to play with.  So what it missed a Zombie mode?  I play FPS games for team deathmatch anything else is a plus. 

Metroid Prime 3 is not the best example of FPS controls since it's pretty much a better controlling Metroid Prime 1 & 2.  As many people say it's FPA, it's slower paced and meant to be so, the game is basically for Metroid fans, great game all around but if you can't get into it then you probably never will.

To say that dual analog is better to play with is like saying it's better then mouse and KB, you might not be able to play with it well as others, you might not like M+KB but it doesn't change the fact that it is much faster and accurate.  Same as the Wii remote except it's the combining of your traditional controller you sit on your couch and play with and the accuracy and speed of the M+KB.



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MaxwellGT2000 said:

Not really since there are many that would disagree, there are many uses for the Wii remote and FPS is one of the best examples of how a genre can be improved on the consoles because of the controller.  It flat out is more accurate and faster to play with.  So what it missed a Zombie mode?  I play FPS games for team deathmatch anything else is a plus. 

Metroid Prime 3 is not the best example of FPS controls since it's pretty much a better controlling Metroid Prime 1 & 2.  As many people say it's FPA, it's slower paced and meant to be so, the game is basically for Metroid fans, great game all around but if you can't get into it then you probably never will.

To say that dual analog is better to play with is like saying it's better then mouse and KB, you might not be able to play with it well as others, you might not like M+KB but it doesn't change the fact that it is much faster and accurate.  Same as the Wii remote except it's the combining of your traditional controller you sit on your couch and play with and the accuracy and speed of the M+KB.

I actually think you will find there are MANY MANY MANY more people that find dual analog controls to be FAR better than using the Wiimote for FPS games, hence the poor FPS sales on Wii.....

I actually don't know anyone apart from you and a couple of other wii fanboys on here that prefer the wiimote to dual analog controls for FPS's, they don't even compare lol.

 

FPS's using Wiimote controls = EPIC FAIL



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FKNetwork said:
MaxwellGT2000 said:

Not really since there are many that would disagree, there are many uses for the Wii remote and FPS is one of the best examples of how a genre can be improved on the consoles because of the controller.  It flat out is more accurate and faster to play with.  So what it missed a Zombie mode?  I play FPS games for team deathmatch anything else is a plus. 

Metroid Prime 3 is not the best example of FPS controls since it's pretty much a better controlling Metroid Prime 1 & 2.  As many people say it's FPA, it's slower paced and meant to be so, the game is basically for Metroid fans, great game all around but if you can't get into it then you probably never will.

To say that dual analog is better to play with is like saying it's better then mouse and KB, you might not be able to play with it well as others, you might not like M+KB but it doesn't change the fact that it is much faster and accurate.  Same as the Wii remote except it's the combining of your traditional controller you sit on your couch and play with and the accuracy and speed of the M+KB.

I actually think you will find there are MANY MANY MANY more people that find dual analog controls to be FAR better than using the Wiimote for FPS games, hence the poor FPS sales on Wii.....

I actually don't know anyone apart from you and a couple of other wii fanboys on here that prefer the wiimote to dual analog controls for FPS's, they don't even compare lol.

 

FPS's using Wiimote controls = EPIC FAIL

Now we get to the insults and the trolling to try to get the point across, that works everytime >_>

World at War was heavily advertised and hyped on PS3 and 360, it also had the CoD4 sales behind the PS3 and 360 versions which was the biggest CoD game ever made, so you hit a high and coming off that high you've gained fans that buy the next title. 

From Matt Cassamassina ten year gaming journalist vet.

from Matt Casamassina
Yeah, I'm inclined to agree with Mark about Medal of Honor Heroes 2. I bring a different perspective to the critical table because I am normally not motivated to pick up wartime first-person shooters -- there are so many of them that I always feel like I've been there and done that before, and I have. I recently did buy Call of Duty 4 for Xbox 360, on the other hand, wholly because of its gorgeous presentation. And I added Medal of Honor Heroes 2 to my collection for an entirely different reason: it controls better than any other home console FPS ever -- and yes, as Boz noted, that includes Prime 3.

That isn't the only review that states as much as well as other gaming vets and pro gamers.  The issue isn't sales here it's controls and most FPS buyers are casual players, they get an FPS for the looks and flair, they play a bit online, and they're onto the next FPS.  The fact that the Wii version sold well after not being advertised, coming after a shitty CoD3 game, and lacked modes of the HD consoles, it did very well for itself. 

When you've actually got evidence that proves your case, try it in a less trollish manner please.



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So far shooters have not had great controls for Wii. BTW the majority of shooter fans like myself are huge on graphics and physics. I can play a terrible looking shooter but when there is a better version out there say on PC/360/PS3 why on earth would I even consider the Wii version? Most shooter fans don't look at the Wii as a very viable platform for shooters because well it isn't. I want a few good ones on the Wii thats why I am really hoping The Conduit and Red Steel 2 are awesome. Lets get real here folks the Shooter genre became popular on the PC where high end graphics are one of the things that make a game really stand out. The Wii is not a graphical powerhouse by todays standards. Keep in mind most wii games that are also on 360/PS3 like Ghostbusters and Sonic and so on have a seperate development team for the Wii version. Not every developer is going to do that. You can complain to Nintendo for making it the way they did because this is more their fault in the hardware then developers and publishers not wanting to make a game for the system. If you like shooters and you only have a Wii then you really should consider getting a PC/PS3/360 for shooters because you not going to be getting many on the Wii and you can quote me if you like.



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FKNetwork said:
MaxwellGT2000 said:

Not really since there are many that would disagree, there are many uses for the Wii remote and FPS is one of the best examples of how a genre can be improved on the consoles because of the controller.  It flat out is more accurate and faster to play with.  So what it missed a Zombie mode?  I play FPS games for team deathmatch anything else is a plus. 

Metroid Prime 3 is not the best example of FPS controls since it's pretty much a better controlling Metroid Prime 1 & 2.  As many people say it's FPA, it's slower paced and meant to be so, the game is basically for Metroid fans, great game all around but if you can't get into it then you probably never will.

To say that dual analog is better to play with is like saying it's better then mouse and KB, you might not be able to play with it well as others, you might not like M+KB but it doesn't change the fact that it is much faster and accurate.  Same as the Wii remote except it's the combining of your traditional controller you sit on your couch and play with and the accuracy and speed of the M+KB.

I actually think you will find there are MANY MANY MANY more people that find dual analog controls to be FAR better than using the Wiimote for FPS games, hence the poor FPS sales on Wii.....

I actually don't know anyone apart from you and a couple of other wii fanboys on here that prefer the wiimote to dual analog controls for FPS's, they don't even compare lol.

 

FPS's using Wiimote controls = EPIC FAIL

I would say that many people that have spent any significant amount of time playing FPS with Wii controls would agree that they are just simply faster than dual analogue.  To say that only a couple of people believe this is just blatantly wrong which means you haven't spoken to alot of people about this, read alot of reviews or you are just struggling to score a point.

People seem to expect to be instantly as good with the Wii controller as they are with dual analogue which they have been using for years, which makes no sense whatsoever.  I am probably relatively better with dual analogue than mouse and keyboard and struggled when i first played shooters on the PC a few years back.  Initially i was probably better with dual analogue, but now have played quite a few shooters over the past few years there is no doubt in my mind that with a mouse and KB i would kill myself using dual analogue.

So i have two questions for you:  How long did you play the games you spoke of?  What controls did you use on Metroid Prime 3? 



It's obvious this guy is lying about Wii pointer vs dual analog to get responses from you.



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LordTheNightKnight said:
It's obvious this guy is lying about Wii pointer vs dual analog to get responses from you.

Exactly what I was thinking.



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