Old when it launched? I guess the cost of prodcution for the PS3 cost was $848 for no reason then

Mike, you can say what you want, but an in order, RISC CPU is not what Joe Sixpack needs in his PC.

PS: I can't believe that you don't even know that Cell is an in order chip. You know, designing a 3.2 GHz and not too high power consumition chip has it's disadvantages, one of them is having to criple the chip and leaving the out of order logic aside.

Isn't a year old computer hardware not considered old by the tech-geeks? And that's minimal a year old because consoles take a long time to plan, produce and then launch. We could be talking about 1.5 year or perhaps even 2 year before it was launched all over the world. Oh, let's not forget. The main cost of that 848$ was for the Blu-Ray player. And bragging about a price of 848$ for a gameconsole is pretty sad.

Yes, and the PENTIUM P55C from my 10 year old computer is more powerfull than the Cell. See, I have a link too...

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/intel-larrabee-graphics,2253-10.html

Apples and oranges, folks, move along.

Larrabee for the win!!!!!oneone111

It'll be a great technical achievement, but much like the Itanium it'll fail because it won't be quite as good as a specialised GPU or CPU of the time. Also, have you seen the die size and rumoured TDP? It'll be the largest die of any serious tech product ever and consume close to 300W... and still not beat Nvidia or AMD due to the compromises made for it to be x86 compatible.

"Mike, you can say what you want, but an in order, RISC CPU is not what Joe Sixpack needs in his PC."

Um, we're all running RISC CPUs. x86 is translated to an internal instruction set which is RISC in nature.

Its still an unknown what TDP they are aiming for, what clock speed they are aiming for and which process node was used to create the samples that we have seen. Its all up in the air at present.

It's true. Maybe I should have bolded the important thing in my assertion, which is "an in order". SPU's have other barriers with everyday code, as having direct access to only 256 KB of memory space, it's L2, and having to do DMA memory access to RAM. This introduces a really big latency, which harms performance. Cell is great for set top boxes, HD video codecs, supercomputers, and things like that, but not so great for databases, word proccessors and spreadsheets.

Sometimes I have lost in translation problems.

Uh, didn't see you said in-order. You're absolutely right in that case.

actually ubuntu runs fast in it very fast.

everything runs in seconds with just 2 Spus.

anything it can't due because lack of intructions it does it with muscles, its very fast more than my core 2 duo.

sadly ps3 have only 256mb 3.2Ghz XDR ram, + RSX 256mb that its restrict in linux.

which may cause slow downs with lack of ram. firefox eats up 200mb by itself.

Well, the old one is quite slow already. And I really would want to see PS4 with more CELL, that would mean pretty much end of playstation. If programming gets any harder than it is already, nobody would use it. You already have to use primarly asm or c with SPE:s and thats tedious. If programs get even bigger and more complex, that would mean developing times longer than consoles life.

(Well, next thing MikeB will say that you can use even java on SPEs. Sure, if you want to throw 90% of potential power out of window. Same goes pretty much with any other programming paradigm than procedural. Which means you can't use the funky new programming stuff that makes keeping programs together much much easier. Haha btw, cell = OoOE was a good joke.)