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txrattlesnake on 24 May 2009
SaviorX said:
Smashchu, I'm sorry that these Sony guys (with the exception of the honorable Squilliam) jumped on you like a pack of hyenas.

At least you have the fact that I believed you to give you comfort.

I hear the same excuses coming from you guys all the time. Great games COMING. Where are they now? Stop preaching about how Sony's software will miraculously turn hardware sales around. 70m Lifetime? Please. You act like MS will just be twiddling its thumbs while Sony tries to recuperate from their financial beating.

Then, the price cut. 300 or 200, what makes you think 4 years after the gen starts, a price cut will just boost sales to near Wii levels? A price cut usually does boost HW, but this is 2010 we are taking about where this will take place. Consumer interest may be ninexistent at that point. Did a price drop help the Gamecube?

And it is funny that you guys somehowcooked up a theory that the Wii will somehow lose 3rd party support? In this "economy" that has "put a knife in third years sales" (as Squilliam put it") how in the world would devs just start making games for the most taxing and expensive console on the market?

Smashchu said hardware is supported by software, and ho couldn't be any more right in this case. What game does Sony have that all consumers may want to play, not Kojima aficionados or former PS2 owners?
They don't have a game over 5m yet, and until Gran Turismo comes out, they may not ever. Killzone 2 will take several more months to touch 2m, not nearly enough to help Sony at all. People complain about the Wii library, but that thing sells everything.

PS3 will be dead in the water before 10 years are up.

 

      Yeah, I mean the overwhelming number of new high quality exclusives that Microsoft has already announced for the 360 in 2009 up 'til this point in time sure has been underwhelming.



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MazeMe on 24 May 2009

It's funny and pathetic at the same time to see so many Sony fanboys come in a thread and say the classic: ''wait until game X comes out!'', or ''wait until the price drop!''.

The consumer is done waiting. They have already decided which platform wins, which platform is going to live. The Wii. The Playstation 3 will be lucky to make the 6 years, let alone 10. Why? Read the OP: because the people, the consumers, don't want the PS3 that badly.

People who say this generation will last longer can only give one valid reason: the Wii. But the PS3/360 aren't being dragged along by the Wii, they are only dying faster because of it. Why? Because the Wii has changed what people want from their games, and the HD consoles aren't offering that.


Third parties are really stupid for letting the Wii go. By the time they DO shift to the Wii en masse it will already be too late, and the Nintendo first-party will have utter dominance over Wii software sales. Nintendo gave those guys more than enough time.


Tear this post apart. I'm not saying only good things about PS3, so that's what you should try, right. And please, by all means, use lame arguments. They'll just prove my point because they tell me you can't come up with any better reason why I'm wrong.
Hit me. Call me a fanboy and an idiot.

BTW, I feel sorry for the OP to get such a bomb of nerd rage. I'm sorry if this makes it worse.



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JGarret on 24 May 2009

Bleft blah!!



Naraku_Diabolos on 24 May 2009
txrattlesnake said:

You're going to see an increase in ownership from the 3 million that the PS3 has now in Japan to between 5 to 7 million PS3s sold in Japan after FFXIII, Versus XIII, and GT5 come out. Not to mention all the other PS3 games like Trico, PS3 Tales of Vesperia, and Ninja Gaiden Sigma 2, and whatever exclusive Kojima has brewing for the system next that Japanese gamers will also go nuts over.

The success of the PS3 in Japan and its far greater popularity there than the 360 will ever have in that nation guarantees that the PS3 won't be going away for a long time.

People would already OWN the PS3 in anticipation for those games, you know. They wouldn't have bought them for nothing. They 'may' move consoles, but not that much.

Oh, and Smashchu, I HIGHLY agree with all your posts on this thread.

However, people may buy the PS3 slim due to it's sleekish looks and probably the price, but we (the consumers and users on this forum/website), have to wait and see if anything develops, whatever Sony is planning.

And this generation is already set in stone, you know. Sony doesn't give the consumers what they want, and they decide to shove expensive and unneeded technology down our throats. Technology can only go so much. The only thing the PS3 can't compete with is LIFE. Not getting religious, but games are just tools for entertainment, nothing more. If they get to complicated, they go along the lines of computers/PCs, and Sony is trying to do that. That's why the PS2 and PS3 were marketed as the Sony Computer Entertainment hardware (that's what SCE is from), and that is why Microsoft is attacking them, to show them who the REAL producers of computers (eh, software) are.



SaviorX on 24 May 2009
BMaker11 said:
SaviorX said:
Smashchu, I'm sorry that these Sony guys (with the exception of the honorable Squilliam) jumped on you like a pack of hyenas.

At least you have the fact that I believed you to give you comfort.

I hear the same excuses coming from you guys all the time. Great games COMING. Where are they now? Stop preaching about how Sony's software will miraculously turn hardware sales around. 70m Lifetime? Please. You act like MS will just be twiddling its thumbs while Sony tries to recuperate from their financial beating.

Then, the price cut. 300 or 200, what makes you think 4 years after the gen starts, a price cut will just boost sales to near Wii levels? A price cut usually does boost HW, but this is 2010 we are taking about where this will take place. Consumer interest may be ninexistent at that point. Did a price drop help the Gamecube?

And it is funny that you guys somehowcooked up a theory that the Wii will somehow lose 3rd party support? In this "economy" that has "put a knife in third years sales" (as Squilliam put it") how in the world would devs just start making games for the most taxing and expensive console on the market?

Smashchu said hardware is supported by software, and ho couldn't be any more right in this case. What game does Sony have that all consumers may want to play, not Kojima aficionados or former PS2 owners?
They don't have a game over 5m yet, and until Gran Turismo comes out, they may not ever. Killzone 2 will take several more months to touch 2m, not nearly enough to help Sony at all. People complain about the Wii library, but that thing sells everything.

PS3 will be dead in the water before 10 years are up.

Paragraph 1: People say that because the great games are ALWAYS coming! It started in 2006, and consistantly great games have come out. It'll be no different in 2010, when newer games get released after the games we're waiting on now have already came out. And PS while we're waiting for games to "come", we'll still be playing KZ2, MGS4, LBP, etc to hold us over

Paragraph 2: Price cut will defintiely help because the DEMAND IS THERE. If it won't help, then please tell me why a $400 PS3 is only selling 10k less than a $200 360? Especially since you want to talk about "do you think M$ will just be twiddling their tumbs". Also, take into consideration how when the PS3 was cut to $400 the first time, it was outselling a $350 360

Paragraph 3: Nobody here said that the Wii will lose 3rd party support. The OP said that the PS3 will lose 3rd party support and that their will be a "shift of resources to the Wii". First off, if that's true, then why are all the big 3rd party titles still only on the HD consoles? Since resources are supposed to be shifted, why is there no Wii version of FFXIII...I mean Crystal Tools is SUPPOSED to run on the console, right? Why was the Wii not even considered for RE5? Why does EA still make the proper versions of their sports games on the HD consoles, while the Wii either gets the "All-Play" version, or a cartoony pseudo-NFL Blitz looking game? The only 3rd party company that anyones care about that's doing any major investing in the Wii is Sega...and with the abysmal sales of MadWorld and HotD, they have paid for it.

Paragraph 4: This is just moot. You want to talk about "which game is must have on the PS3?" What game is must have on the Wii? Mario? Zelda? Metroid? Mario Kart? Other random staple franchise? They didn't save the GC or N64, so don't use those games as examples. If you want to talk down about the PS3 because of stuff like Wii Fit and Wii Play selling millions, you're out of the loop with games. Software does in fact sell consoles, otherwise why DO you think the PS3 is only 10K below the 360, which like I said, has an entry price of $200 (you know, mass market price). If you honestly don't believe that cutting the price will not boost sales significantly, thus helping software sells also (since you want to rag on KZ2) then you're an even bigger fool than smashchu

BUT WHERE ARE THEY? Are they on shelves right now? NO. They are next year, or, coming soon. God of War 3, Gran Turism0 5, Heavy Rain,Uncharted 2.......nothing is here now, where it matters.  Your paragraph one rebuttal is weak. 3+ games to hold you over? That's hilarious. NEXT.

Paragraph 2: What demand? If demand was there,it would be beating the 360.

Paragraph 3: Check the first page of fanboy ranting in this thread, you'll see it. I'm not going to waste my time going back, now that I'm on like page 4 to look for it, but I know you might just to spite me. As for the "BIG" games as you call them, FFXIII has been in development for 5 years, back when they thought PS3 was going to be the winner of this gen. Wii didn't get RE5 because it wasn't strong enough for what they wanted to do with it, but the Wii is still getting Darkside Chronicles anyways. The Wii is getting Final Fantasy Crystal Chronicles too, so it is getting a FF game as well. There is ABSOLUTELY NO POINT discussing the Wii with you BMaker, because you hate it completely, look at your signature. I'll skip now.

 

Call me a fool if you want, but the bigger fool is the one waiting for his father after he "goes out to get a pack of cigarettes"; the same position Sony fanboys are in right now, waiting for him to come back. And no, I didn'tlike Killzone 2, deal with it.

 



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GameAnalyser on 24 May 2009

X losing steam or sharp decline in 2010, no way dood...u make things look like last gen competition...ur great wall of text summarises that!!! Though somewhat agreeing with few statements especially the thorn for Sony...Cool..Keep them coming!!



dharh on 24 May 2009

The only console that comes close to being trash would be the Wii. Most boring kit ive ever had. But you don't hear me writing topics about it. Honestly people need to stop with these articles and posts.



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Bladeforce on 24 May 2009

Why post something like this when all it will get is PS3 owners blinded to reality replying? BOTH THE PS3 AND BLUE-RAY WILL NOT LAST 3 YEARS! TECHNOLOGY CHANGED TOO FAST!



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"Hey, Steve, just because you broke into Xerox's house before I did and took the TV doesn't mean I can't go in later and take the stereo." - Bill Gates (Microsoft Corporation)

Bill Gates had Mac prototypes to work from, and he was known to be obsessed with trying to make Windows as good as SAND (Steve's Amazing New Device), as a Microsoft exec named it. It was the Mac that Microsoft took for its blueprint on how to make a GUI.

 

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Bladeforce on 24 May 2009

@BMAKER11 is it Wii FIt that has sold as many as PS3's sold? Thats a LOL Look at the total sales of software is it just me that sees Nintendo titles hitting 10m+ and you say they arent making a difference? Another LOL!



"...the best way to prepare [to be a programmer] is to write programs, and to study great programs that other people have written. In my case, I went to the garbage cans at the Computer Science Center and fished out listings of their operating system." - Bill Gates (Microsoft Corporation)

"Hey, Steve, just because you broke into Xerox's house before I did and took the TV doesn't mean I can't go in later and take the stereo." - Bill Gates (Microsoft Corporation)

Bill Gates had Mac prototypes to work from, and he was known to be obsessed with trying to make Windows as good as SAND (Steve's Amazing New Device), as a Microsoft exec named it. It was the Mac that Microsoft took for its blueprint on how to make a GUI.

 

""Windows [n.] - A thirty-two bit extension and GUI shell to a sixteen bit patch to an eight bit operating system originally coded for a four bit microprocessor and sold by a two-bit company that can't stand one bit of competition.""

rckrz6 on 24 May 2009

i don't beleive it will either, the ps2 still has no been out for 10 years and the ps3 has no where the same poplulatiry