TheTruthProphet said:
Lord N said:
TheTruthProphet said:
Lord N said:
TheTruthProphet said:
wow..sony defenders are in a frenzy on this thread.
ps3 is in last place still.
still losing a crapload of $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
Sony would have been better off not even creating the ps3...sadly.
So yes, I think they will give up the console....it has proven to be a money waster |
You sure about that?
If the PS3 weren't around, then not only would the 360 lose a lot of third-party support, raving 360 fanatics like you wouldn't have your bragging rights because there'd be no marginally lesser selling console to compare it to. You wouldn't be able to ignore the Wii, exaggerate the negligible sales gap every week, and brag about your console of choice being a distant second. Instead, the 360 would be in a distant last place with only the Wii to compare it to and hence would be catching sheer hell for its poor sales.
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I don't care about the xbox 360. Why is somebody labeled a 360 fanboy when they point out the glorious failings of the ps3?
I said it would be better for SONY if they didn't waste 6 billion on the ps3, not better for me.
Wow....so sad. Why don't you get back to me when the ps3 actually makes a profit.
I don't expect to be hearing from you for a few years.....thank God!
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Because you can't harp on the failings of the PS3 without doing the same to the 360 because it's pretty much in the same boat.
The PS3 is being destroyed by the Wii? So is the 360.
The PS3 is selling poorly? So is the 360.
The 360 hasn't made a profit either. It's had profitable quarters, but overall it's still in the red. As a matter of fact, MSFT's E&D division posted a 31 million dollar loss last quarter.
So yeah, the PS3 isn't turning a profit? Neither is the 360.
But fine, let's have it your way. Sony decides not to waste anymore money on consoles and leaves the market. As a result, you don't have a rallying point when your precious 360 faces the ass whoopin' from the Wii all by itself.
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1) Lord N - Umm you are wrong young lad. The xbox 360 has been profitable for 2 years now....even though they weren't last quarter.
2) The ps3 has wasted all the ps2 profits and cost sony 6 billion dollars. SONY CANNOT AFFORD THIS WASTE!!!
Microsoft made 3 billion $$$$$$ NET PROFIT IN 3 MONTHS....which is more than sony will make in 3-4 YEARS!!!!!!!!!!!
Microsoft has ZERO DEBT and 25 billion in cash reserves. Sony is 8 billion in debt and GROWING as speak.
SONY went from a gaming leader with 70% market share to last place.
3) Microsoft has made enormous progress this generation while sony is on the brink of collapse.
Reality check
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1) You're either completely clueless, or just a liar. There have been several quarters over the past two years where MSFT's E&D division has posted losses, and even when it has posted profits a) the E&D division consists of several other products and services that don't include the 360, and b) it's not anywhere near enough to make up for the original losses of the 360, much less the Xbox.
2) MSFT as a company made 3 billion dollars. Windows and Office have nothing to do with the 360. If Sony's other divisions were bringing in boatloads of money, then it wouldn't mean jack shit for the PS3. Droning on about MSFT being a wealthy company is just a red herring.
3) If anyone needs a reality check here, it's you. MSFT is still in the same position that it was in last generation, which is a distant, unprofitable second place. Not to mention that it still can't sell worth a shit in Japan and still hasn't found a way to appeal to all gamer demographics as it still appeals almost exclusively to core and hardcore gamers.
Sony has certainly been greatly weakened this generation, but it isn't in a position where it can't recover. At the very least, Sony can say that it has a presence in all markets and that it has a console that has had strong sales across all regions throughout the generation(PSP). The PSP will probably end up outselling the NES. When this generation is over, Sony will have sold twice as many total consoles as MSFT and hence will have had a larger impact on the market.
However, none of this changes the fact that neither one is in a position to throw a party at the current time, and they're both going to have their work cut out for them next gen if they want to avoid a repeat slaughter by Nintendo.
Consoles owned: Saturn, Dreamcast, PS1, PS2, PSP, DS, PS3
